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United Kingdom UNITED KINGDOM 2020 - James Newman - My Last Breath
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OMG do you guys really think that even Steps, the epitome of being trashy, corny, camp and cheesy (it doesn't mean that it can't be fun too but "Scared of the Dark" is neither high quality nor contemporary sounding and I'm pretty sure that - despite being a fan favourite, it would end up being bottom 5 as well) is above BBC's agenda? - I think it would fit perfectly into their 2010's mechanism.
All I want is something what we can take serious. A decent pop track with mass appeal. An interesting composition. The only glimpse of hope was Molly back in 2014. The BBC should have used that sound as a guide for their upcoming entries.
All I want is something what we can take serious. A decent pop track with mass appeal. An interesting composition. The only glimpse of hope was Molly back in 2014. The BBC should have used that sound as a guide for their upcoming entries.
tbh I think any of the recent Step songs would be a fan flop in the making, hyped by fans but then crash epically at eurovision. 
The whole notion of a has-been-middle-aged group really doesn't sit well with me, even if I think Steps are great and a huge part of my childhood. I don't want them to go and I think in fact they'd take things further back for us, rather than forward. Especially when the inevitable flop would come in as it would dramatically harden any idea of it doesn't matter who we send. Maybe if we were Sweden and raking great results year on year we could get away with it. But in its current form, not a chance in the slightest.
The whole notion of a has-been-middle-aged group really doesn't sit well with me, even if I think Steps are great and a huge part of my childhood. I don't want them to go and I think in fact they'd take things further back for us, rather than forward. Especially when the inevitable flop would come in as it would dramatically harden any idea of it doesn't matter who we send. Maybe if we were Sweden and raking great results year on year we could get away with it. But in its current form, not a chance in the slightest.
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Not sure if they've been mentioned already here, but Grace Carter or Chlöe Howl would be fab 
Also, I'm a massive Steps fan and have loved all of their recent "revival" material but for Eurovision, just no! Let's look forward and consider how far the contest has moved on in the past 20 years, just for one second I wish the BBC would look at the previous few contests and take some notice...
Also, I'm a massive Steps fan and have loved all of their recent "revival" material but for Eurovision, just no! Let's look forward and consider how far the contest has moved on in the past 20 years, just for one second I wish the BBC would look at the previous few contests and take some notice...
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That would be amazing! But she's still too popular and young.
Maybe 2032 will be our year
lavieenrose
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A few questions I've been pondering lately about the UK at Eurovision:
1) In the last twenty years, which UK Eurovision entries should be deemed "successful?"
2) Are the following two statements a dichotomy, and if so, which of them rings truer (particularly but not exclusively interested in
responses to this one)?
"The UK is the UK; it gave the world Adele/Elton John/The Beatles/etc.; it should be able to come up with more."
"The UK is just the UK; it isn't entitled to or, more cynically even, capable of winning Eurovision every year; they should work with their choice as though they were just another country"
3) Adele (if you don't like Adele music anymoreokay listen to my music then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8klPMj8Db4s or if you absolutely stan too much to judge clearly then feel free to replace with a British celebrity with similar fame) calls up the BBC tomorrow and says "I want to do Eurovision." Should they accept the offer?
1) In the last twenty years, which UK Eurovision entries should be deemed "successful?"
2) Are the following two statements a dichotomy, and if so, which of them rings truer (particularly but not exclusively interested in
responses to this one)?"The UK is the UK; it gave the world Adele/Elton John/The Beatles/etc.; it should be able to come up with more."
"The UK is just the UK; it isn't entitled to or, more cynically even, capable of winning Eurovision every year; they should work with their choice as though they were just another country"
3) Adele (if you don't like Adele music anymore
LastDreamer
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I like old Steps songs, but was very disappointed by their comeback album and Claire's debut album wasn't good too.
I loved Steps, but allSTARS* always was my favourite group from that era of pop music.
Faye
I loved Steps, but allSTARS* always was my favourite
group from that era of pop music. Faye
tomos2019
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Sorry for the controversy, but I at least prefer Steps to Cheryl Cole! I'm afraid anything to do with Simon Cowell just repels me, I know Pete Waterman is supposed to be close to him as well but I honestly find him a better guy.
I'm afraid anything to do with Simon Cowell just repels me, I know Pete Waterman is supposed to be close to him as well but I honestly find him a better guy.
LastDreamer
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Steps will get the similar result with Scooch. Almost nobody don't like this type of songs now. 
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1Funnily enough I was only thinking the other week that Clean Bandit could do well if they're given the chance to produce our song. But Disclosure would be fantastic too.
In a similar vein we'd do very well if we let Calvin Harris produce an entry.
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Yes, at least have some dance music!
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Bumping this thread to say that I think we should send something electronic next year, something with a lot of bass and doof doof doof noises, or at the very least, something that isn't a ballad about being dumped written by the same songwriting team that has probably written the entries for three other countries that year. I don't think we will, though. I think we'll send something that sounds like a song that didn't do very well in 2019, and then act surprised when it doesn't do very well in 2020 either (I thought our entry this year sounded a bit like Iceland's 2018 entry, and that did very badly). Part of the reason people in Europe don't vote for us may be political (we are ghastly), but we're not the only terrible country, and countries with homophobic laws on the books still wind up doing better than us with the gay crowd because their songs sound like something sometimes.
I think some of it is ego - established British artists are too nervous to put themselves up for a competition in case they don't do very well (and, as was stated above, some of the artists are much too cool and exclusive to send a good song to Eurovision, because "all Eurovision songs are bad", and they don't want their incredibly cool fanbase to think they sold out). And then some of it might be that the BBC and the record company executives want to be the ones in control, so when Paloma Faith says she'd do Eurovision if she gets creative control over the music, all the executives ignore her because they don't want someone going into a contest with Europeans doing whatever they please. Anything could happen! The U.K. might come last if we did that! There is no point in saying "the U.K. came last anyway" because it would be as if you hadn't spoken at all.
I think some of it is ego - established British artists are too nervous to put themselves up for a competition in case they don't do very well (and, as was stated above, some of the artists are much too cool and exclusive to send a good song to Eurovision, because "all Eurovision songs are bad", and they don't want their incredibly cool fanbase to think they sold out). And then some of it might be that the BBC and the record company executives want to be the ones in control, so when Paloma Faith says she'd do Eurovision if she gets creative control over the music, all the executives ignore her because they don't want someone going into a contest with Europeans doing whatever they please. Anything could happen! The U.K. might come last if we did that! There is no point in saying "the U.K. came last anyway" because it would be as if you hadn't spoken at all.
Probably the same useless concept as we have been using for a few years now.
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??? There were so many suggestions on this topic that I thought that the BBC had announced an internal selection or at least some change in the selection process, I'm a bit disappointed.
