escYOUnited
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United Kingdom UNITED KINGDOM 2020 - James Newman - My Last Breath
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Lel. the song writing camps are already well under way according to .net.
Holly Tandy is there,
Jonas Thander who co-wrote Lithuania 2016 and UK 2019
Maria Broberg who co-wrote Moldova 2019
Henrik Tala who co-wrote Norway 2019
Tom Oehler who co-wrote Germany 2019
Jeroen Swinnen who co-wrote Belgium 2010
and more
Doesn't say it's for the UK specifically but it's definitely for Eurovision and i'm sure some are heading our way.
Holly Tandy is there,
Jonas Thander who co-wrote Lithuania 2016 and UK 2019
Maria Broberg who co-wrote Moldova 2019
Henrik Tala who co-wrote Norway 2019
Tom Oehler who co-wrote Germany 2019
Jeroen Swinnen who co-wrote Belgium 2010
and more
Doesn't say it's for the UK specifically but it's definitely for Eurovision and i'm sure some are heading our way.
lavieenrose
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Lel. the song writing camps are already well under way according to .net.
Holly Tandy is there,
Jonas Thander who co-wrote Lithuania 2016 and UK 2019
Maria Broberg who co-wrote Moldova 2019
Henrik Tala who co-wrote Norway 2019
Tom Oehler who co-wrote Germany 2019
Jeroen Swinnen who co-wrote Belgium 2010
and more
Doesn't say it's for the UK specifically but it's definitely for Eurovision and i'm sure some are heading our way.
Between them, three entries that performed well and one good one. My body is ready.
theditz83
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Please slay us BBC with Spirit In The Sky mk II 
LeRoyaumeUni
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Greig Watts has posted on Facebook that he'll be hosting DWB songwriting camps for Eurovision next year...so it looks like we're screwed for yet another year, this is so unfair!
The BBC are a pathetic joke, so is Greig and his team of Swedes!
The BBC are a pathetic joke, so is Greig and his team of Swedes!
So it is for the UK. I'm not even going to pretend there is a chance, because everyone and their dog knows this is a car crash in the making with a whole bunch of inoffensive middle of the road drivel currently being wrote. You'd hope the BBC would learn from this last place. Sean has been posting songs from unknown artists that are leaps and bounds more authentic and all round better than our latest esc entries in this very thread. Writing songs for people without them writing their own is the biggest problem, seriously.
Did he also do it last year?
I'm worried. Some songs were good when it's written in songwriting camps, but reading Surie's comment about the camp last year made me worried because the work process seems really restrictive, as they have to make a 'Eurovision' song with a set of rules and prohibitions (maybe like it sholud be catchy, it shoud contain only 100 words, or something). I get that it looks great on paper but some results can be questionable, cheap or even plagiaristic.
Or... alternatively, it actually worked and they probably had good song in their camp. It's just the delegation team chose the most Eurovision-y things possible.
To me, songwriting camps are the devil tbh. Entries written during those can be successful sometimes, but they almost always sound forced and Eurovisiony. Not to mention there is very little turnover as far as songwriters are concerned. But I guess concepts such as "originality" and "authenticity" are curse words.
That's reassuring to see they apparently work with people who wrote entries that either didn't qualify or were bottom five this year.
The BBC is blatantly courting disaster.
Hopefully, something not too bad will come out of this. Hope never dies.
That's reassuring to see they apparently work with people who wrote entries that either didn't qualify or were bottom five this year.
The BBC is blatantly courting disaster.Hopefully, something not too bad will come out of this. Hope never dies.
Anyways, aside of the songs...
Would it be even better if the UK puts at least some PASSION towards their presentation (staging)?
Sometimes it could work like 2017, but 2018 and 2019 was bad it hurts. The staging this year was even worse with Michael singing on a space-y background which doesn't even make sense with what he's wearing. It does look like your usual Idol winner encore if I think about it again.
Would it be even better if the UK puts at least some PASSION towards their presentation (staging)?
Sometimes it could work like 2017, but 2018 and 2019 was bad it hurts. The staging this year was even worse with Michael singing on a space-y background which doesn't even make sense with what he's wearing. It does look like your usual Idol winner encore if I think about it again.
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i actually think staging was pretty good both last year and this year, tbh. staging is basically the only thing they have done right every year since 2015. they don't look better than they could be because when the song is SO nondescript and bland that you can't give it a personality at all, staging can only go so far, but they went as far as they could under that limitation this year. michael's staging looked pretty good, but it didn't fit the song because what fits 3 minutes of nothing in particular?
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we have been completely and utterly hopeless at eurovision in the 21st century and we deserve every awful result we get lmao
the new nf format ensures that most, if not all, of the entries will either be songwriting camp husks devoid of any personality or just downright embarrassing, with the winner ultimately being the cheesiest, most inoffensive one of the bunch because ~it's SO eurovision~. artists with a bigger profileor any self respect will avoid it like the plague because why the hell would they want to get saddled with such trite crap? even if they could still enter with their own songs, they wouldn't. the risk of coming 15th and getting thrown into the dustbin of irrelevant uk eurovision flops puts them off enough already.
i don't even think the bbc wants to win at this point. they're getting a pretty sweet deal out of the current situation: they get a relatively cheap prime time saturday evening slot with great viewing figures, and all they have to do in return is send some x-factor reject with a tepid mess of a song away to some european capital for a week. in their eyes, they've got no reason to want to spend millions on hosting the thing, so why would they?
the public perception of the contest doesn't help either. every year, without fail, people moan that the only reason we do so badly is because it's all political and europe hates us, but if you ask them to mention any entry of ours from the past twenty years that they genuinely like, they'll struggle to think of a single one. they can't seem to grasp the concept that perhaps, perhaps, the problem lies with us and not the rest of the continent. our exceptionalist nonsense knows no bounds, not even at eurovision.
anyway we suck and, barring a miracle, will continue to suck for the foreseeable future thanks for reading my essay
the new nf format ensures that most, if not all, of the entries will either be songwriting camp husks devoid of any personality or just downright embarrassing, with the winner ultimately being the cheesiest, most inoffensive one of the bunch because ~it's SO eurovision~. artists with a bigger profile
i don't even think the bbc wants to win at this point. they're getting a pretty sweet deal out of the current situation: they get a relatively cheap prime time saturday evening slot with great viewing figures, and all they have to do in return is send some x-factor reject with a tepid mess of a song away to some european capital for a week. in their eyes, they've got no reason to want to spend millions on hosting the thing, so why would they?
the public perception of the contest doesn't help either. every year, without fail, people moan that the only reason we do so badly is because it's all political and europe hates us, but if you ask them to mention any entry of ours from the past twenty years that they genuinely like, they'll struggle to think of a single one. they can't seem to grasp the concept that perhaps, perhaps, the problem lies with us and not the rest of the continent. our exceptionalist nonsense knows no bounds, not even at eurovision.
anyway we suck and, barring a miracle, will continue to suck for the foreseeable future thanks for reading my essay
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UK you should either go for a MF kind of NF concerning the artist quality or go for an internal selection! Now, the NF format is a safe choice for mediocre, underwhelming artists and songs. A NF with more decent artists is completely unlikely of course. So please try an internal selection with someone really talented! And yes, Tom Grennan is an awesome example for that!
https://twitter.com/TandyHolly/status/1142096076847161347
Do you think they're maybe going to internally select her? Why would they all be pointing at her in one of the photos?
Do you think they're maybe going to internally select her? Why would they all be pointing at her in one of the photos?
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It's my guess, but mostly she can be a songwriter of the nextentry.
If anything then it is that, but it seems odd that in multiple pictures i've seen they all point to her.
Probably just asked for a group photo with everyone for her social media, so they did one pointing at her.