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KAZAKHSTAN 2012 - not taking part

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To be fair i'm sure Wien is almost at equal distance between Iceland & Kazakhstan.


But you know europe is not only about frontiers, for me it's all about history, war (i know it's lame but it is a big part of our comon history and we shouldn't forget it) , writting, sports, Arts, sometimes religions, cooking, lifestyle and so many much things we have in common.

That's why according to me Russia & Turkey are 100% European despite having some parts of their countries arguably in Asia because of that and so is Israel because of that.


And i'not sure Kazakhstan is.


I have nothing against them but if we keep going new frontiers, Syria, Egypt, Morroco And then Uzbekistan, Tunisia, Sudan, Iran a lot of countries which i have nothing against at all but which are not in Europe.

I think EBU should work on getting all Europe in the contest, starting with Montenegro & Luxembourg rather than letting non European Countries in.

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And Kazakhstan was heavily influenced by Russia and Turkey.

Soooooo?
And Australia is heavily influenced with UK, South Africa too, Mozambique was part of Portugal, same for Brazil, Tahiti can take part to...... and where is the end?

This is EUROvision, not world vision, and especially it's not charity organization.
 

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Soooooo?
And Australia is heavily influenced with UK, South Africa too, Mozambique was part of Portugal, same for Brazil, Tahiti can take part to...... and where is the end?.
Sooooooo?
Kazakhstan is not as far as Australia or South Africa, what does it have to do with Mozambique :?
All that generalizing is nothing but drama. Educate yourself about certain nations. Shape up! :geek:
 

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Re: KAZAKHSTAN 2012

I hope Kazakhstan will be in Baku. :) Because Kazakhstan also have lands in Europe like Azerbaijan, like Georgia, like Turkey. :) We are waiting for you our Turkish friends. ;)
 

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^ don't hope so much. Kazahstan will just support Russia during the contest...nothing more. I can't stand their crappy show-biznes. No offence
 

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^ Do you hate A-Studio? o__0
I wouldn't be so sure about supporting Russia )))
 

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^ don't hope so much. Kazahstan will just support Russia during the contest...nothing more. I can't stand their crappy show-biznes. No offence

They will suport Azerbaijan also ))) So must be happy cause will benefit us ;))
 

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They are too far away, they won't take part I think. And they're even not in the UER broadcasting area. ;)
 

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@Quent. Russia is even more far and they don't need to be in European Broadcasting Zone in order to become EBU member.
 

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They are too far away, they won't take part I think. And they're even not in the UER broadcasting area. ;)

If in July, :kz: if acepted in the Counsil of Europe, of course the UER won't refused on included hers in their broadcasting area
 

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Re: KAZAKHSTAN 2012

The VAST majority of Russia is not in the European broadcasting zone xshrug

ps. Did you "forget" about another rule? being a member of European Council? :D
If Kazakhstan is being accepted in 2013-2015 the EBU can make an exception. Or even extend EBZ if neccessary (judging from that map it won't be such a big extension). The last time they did that was in 2006.


Yes, but if we will continue so... in 2020 we'll have China and Mongolia in Eurovision :°D
 

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If you have paranoia it's not my problem.

According to such "argument" we shouldn't accept anyone .... I think we should exclude EVERYONE.

If you keep participating Mongolia will join, you know :rolleyes:
 

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Sooooooo?
Kazakhstan is not as far as Australia or South Africa, what does it have to do with Mozambique :?
All that generalizing is nothing but drama. Educate yourself about certain nations. Shape up! :geek:

And what Kazakhstan has in common with Europe, except it was a part of SSSR, tell me please and enlighten me?
ANd why not Tadjikistan, or Kirgyzstan?

And by the way, I'm geography teacher ;)
 

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Re: KAZAKHSTAN 2012

Would Kazakh people themselves feel home competing in Eurovision? I'm not talking about the Russian or German Kazakhs who would definitely feel connected to other Europeans in the contest, but the actual people of the country. I'm thinking maybe they are not taking part because there is a lack of interest from their side.
 

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Would Kazakh people themselves feel home competing in Eurovision? I'm not talking about the Russian or German Kazakhs who would definitely feel connected to other Europeans in the contest, but the actual people of the country. I'm thinking maybe they are not taking part because there is a lack of interest from their side.
Considering that Kazakhstan doesn't participate in ESC the show is watched by at least 4-4.5% televiewers at night and Sunday re-run has a rating of 7-7.5%, in total it's 11-12% approx. In Ukraine (2011) it's 20%, for comparison.
The broadcaster is interested as well.
 

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Re: KAZAKHSTAN 2012

@Quent. Russia is even more far and they don't need to be in European Broadcasting Zone in order to become EBU member.
Russia is even more far??Have you ever saw a map? Yes part of Russia isnt in the EBU zone but the most important part is and dont even compare Russia and Kazhakstan in termos of european territories cuse Kazakhstan has none.
 
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