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Austria AUSTRIA 2014 - Conchita Wurst - Rise like a Phoenix

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QwaarJet

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Conchita Wurst and Bear Grylls. That should be...interesting.
 

DanielLuis

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It seems androgyny is having a revival in pop culture, now that the 80's are long gone........ I like it!

I completely understand that people are upset with an act winning instead of a song, but you have to understand that Conchita's performance trancended any rules. In the end it was about something bigger than the song. It was art in my opinion, and I think something that rare deserves recognition.
Also, this year had no obvious smash hits like "Fairytale" or "Euphoria", so I guess it all had to come down to the performances, and in that regard Conchita deserved the win.

An act winning instead of a song? Sure, the performance and the act may have helped, but it only won because of the song it was representing. The song was very good quality, and it won on it's own merits. Conchita wouldn't win if the song was weak.

Also, I'm pretty sure some people would have liked the song if it was sung by a "normal" loooking man or woman.
 

Sammy

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If you compare the first song, she was trying to represent Austria (That's what I am), with this one, I'm not so sure if she had won... But this time everything fit together. Text, music, voice, staging, performance...
 

DanielLuis

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If you compare the first song, she was trying to represent Austria (That's what I am), with this one, I'm not so sure if she had won... But this time everything fit together. Text, music, voice, staging, performance...

She wouldn't indeed, as it was much weaker, in my opinion.
 

Nikkita

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New hairstyle errmahgerrdd

I think her old hairstyle was better,long hair just fits her so much.

And sitting next to Kirsten Dunst omg it must be crazy for her :D
 

Knubelznarm

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An act winning instead of a song? Sure, the performance and the act may have helped, but it only won because of the song it was representing. The song was very good quality, and it won on it's own merits. Conchita wouldn't win if the song was weak.

Also, I'm pretty sure some people would have liked the song if it was sung by a "normal" loooking man or woman.

I guess we will never know if it was the song or the act that did it. I think the song is very cliché and a bit insignificant. I know that's just my personal taste, but I can't imagine a regular person would be as successful with it. I believe Conchita was at the right place at the right time, and even though I'm not loving the song, I'm happy about the statement she has made.
 

Mlyn

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I guess we will never know if it was the song or the act that did it. I think the song is very cliché and a bit insignificant. I know that's just my personal taste, but I can't imagine a regular person would be as successful with it. I believe Conchita was at the right place at the right time, and even though I'm not loving the song, I'm happy about the statement she has made.

I'm happy for each and every statement YOU make.
 

Leydan

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What do they say? :?
 

pinkchiffon

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1. Belarusian viewers awarded Conchita 7 points, but she didn't receive them
2. Teo: "When you see Conchita, something inside turns"
3. Conchita Wurst isn't invited to Slavianski Bazaar because of vocals
 

Yoozek

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^

What is this!?!

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I mean...

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No....That's totally too much...

Let's watch Verka instead!
 

Sammy

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Today at five pm conchita is invited by the head of government of Austria and will afterwards gve an open air concert on the Ballhausplatz (the place in front of the chancelors residence) in Vienna. The concert is broadcasted by the ORF. It will be streamed live here Livestreams des aktuellen Programms / ORF TVthek
 

ShoeFlo

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I was kind of satisfied that Austria won this ESC, because of sympathies to the country and because I admire Conchitas voice. But honestly... this song isn't worth to win. Think on songs like Euphoria, Fairytale and so on... THESE were deserved winner songs. Catchy, high quality... And now Rise like a phoenix... this song has good parts for sure, but there were at least 3-4 better songs.
It's obviously that Austria didn't won because of the song but because of Conchita. That's not in the proper meaning of the ESC.
At the end the best song is supposed to win the ESC, unregarding what the singer looks like. If a country sends a munchkin singer to the ESC, is he gonna win just because he is different? Don't get me wrong, I don't wanna compare Conchita to a handicapped person, but they have something in common: they don't comply to the standards of society.
People like Conchita want to reach that they are considered normal like anybody else who performs on stage. They don't wanna be the "main topic" in every newspaper because of their style, but they wanna be accepted and tolerated like everybody else. But as long as such people win automatically unregarding of the song they performed, it will be a BIG Topic. So obviously Conchita polarizes
Only if soon in the future a drag queen will perform and maybe finish up on an unspectacular 6th place without receiving more media attention as the other singers, THEN we can assume that these people are an integrated part of soiciety and tolerated as well.
 
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