Participants

[AdelAdel]

Ok, well so nothing new then really. Yeah... "official explanation"

TVP did not say anything after this year's contest ended, so we'll have to wait.

 

[EscGeek]

think positive 1

 

[NikkiBoy]

Greece have confirmed participation:
Eurovision 2013:

 

[dragvision]

next year a new record of nation 42 of this year+ Armenia, Poland and Czech republic and Morocco.

 

[Farahim]

next year a new record of nation 42 of this year+ Armenia, Poland and Czech republic and Morocco.

Right but I don't think so Czech will return

 

[AdelAdel]

Right but I don't think so Czech will return

And Morocco most likely won't return, either.

 

[NikkiBoy]

I think there will be 43 Countries:
Poland and Armenia return.
Slovakia or Georgia withdrawl.

 

[AdelAdel]

I think there will be 43 Countries:
Poland and Armenia return.
Slovakia or Georgia withdrawl.

And why would Georgia withdraw?

 

[NikkiBoy]

^Georgia had a really bad selection this year with only 9 songs!!! I think the georgian people aren't interested in ESC anymore.

 

[AdelAdel]

^Georgia had a really bad selection this year with only 9 songs!!! I think the georgian people aren't interested in ESC anymore.

Well, the French and UK people aren't interested in Eurovision, but the countries still participate

 

[NikkiBoy]

^Wooow, seriously?
Okaay maybe Georgia stay.. But i don't know about Slovakia - hopeful Czech Republic return.

 

[AdelAdel]

^Wooow, seriously?
Okaay maybe Georgia stay.. But i don't know about Slovakia - hopeful Czech Republic return.

Yes, people from both: France and UK aren't interested in the contest in the slightest and most of them think of it as something ridiculous. But I guess their stations still participate, because they're part of the Big 5 anyway.
And Czech Republic probably won't return as I remember someone from CR sent an e-mail to their broadcaster, and they replied that CR won't take part in Eurovision in the near future.

 

[Mickey]

^Wooow, seriously?

In the UK it's basically treated as a comedy show, but a comedy show people love. There is still interest in ESC, and it often does very well in the ratings, but it's not taken at all seriously as a platform for quality music.

 

[DanielLuis]

Yes, people from both: France and UK aren't interested in the contest in the slightest and most of them think of it as something ridiculous. But I guess their stations still participate, because they're part of the Big 5 anyway.
And Czech Republic probably won't return as I remember someone from CR sent an e-mail to their broadcaster, and they replied that CR won't take part in Eurovision in the near future.

ESC Final is always the most watched show in the UK.

 

[AdelAdel]

In the UK it's basically treated as a comedy show, but a comedy show people love. There is still interest in ESC, and it often does very well in the ratings, but it's not taken at all seriously as a platform for quality music.

And... why is it treated as a comedy show and not a music contest?

 

[Milos-BC]

My guess is because the UK doesn't really do well lately (generally). As a reaction to that it is much easier for them to blame the political voting for bad results and to make everyone guilty but them. And the only two times when they really gave good effort in the last 10 years almost - they achieved solid results.

But of course it's always much easier to blame everything on Pope, aliens and politics instead of taking responsibility for failures. None of them (BBC) explained what were they thinking when they drew out of a well a singer who was a star 40 years ago but is not active anymore? On whose votes were they counting? those who are in their 50s, 60s and 70s? Many of them forgot about him, many of the elderly population never vote on ESC, and the song was not even close to be stimulating enough to make them change their minds.

ESC is like sports - it returns to you as much as you give it. If BBC treats it as a nonsense and ridiculous festival that only people who don't have smarter things to do watch, how can a great result be expected? Is there any logic in that?

It's sad as the UK has a great number of fantastic artists, and if there really is good will and energy, each and every year the UK would be ending in top 5. It really has a potential for such things. But the BBC doesn't use (almost) any of that. And as a consequence - they fail and than blame everyone else but them.

 

[Mickey]

My guess is because the UK doesn't really do well lately (generally). As a reaction to that it is much easier for them to blame the political voting for bad results and to make everyone guilty but them. And the only two times when they really gave good effort in the last 10 years almost - they achieved solid results.

But of course it's always much easier to blame everything on Pope, aliens and politics instead of taking responsibility for failures. None of them (BBC) explained what were they thinking when they drew out of a well a singer who was a star 40 years ago but is not active anymore? On whose votes were they counting? those who are in their 50s, 60s and 70s? Many of them forgot about him, many of the elderly population never vote on ESC, and the song was not even close to be stimulating enough to make them change their minds.

ESC is like sports - it returns to you as much as you give it. If BBC treats it as a nonsense and ridiculous festival that only people who don't have smarter things to do watch, how can a great result be expected? Is there any logic in that?

It's sad as the UK has a great number of fantastic artists, and if there really is good will and energy, each and every year the UK would be ending in top 5. It really has a potential for such things. But the BBC doesn't use (almost) any of that. And as a consequence - they fail and than blame everyone else but them.

Nah, it's been like that as long as I've been watching, really. If you're going to blame anyone, blame Terry Wogan, for belittling the show in his commentary for decades.

 

[Sim]

My guess is because the UK doesn't really do well lately (generally). As a reaction to that it is much easier for them to blame the political voting for bad results and to make everyone guilty but them. And the only two times when they really gave good effort in the last 10 years almost - they achieved solid results.

But of course it's always much easier to blame everything on Pope, aliens and politics instead of taking responsibility for failures. None of them (BBC) explained what were they thinking when they drew out of a well a singer who was a star 40 years ago but is not active anymore? On whose votes were they counting? those who are in their 50s, 60s and 70s? Many of them forgot about him, many of the elderly population never vote on ESC, and the song was not even close to be stimulating enough to make them change their minds.

ESC is like sports - it returns to you as much as you give it. If BBC treats it as a nonsense and ridiculous festival that only people who don't have smarter things to do watch, how can a great result be expected? Is there any logic in that?

It's sad as the UK has a great number of fantastic artists, and if there really is good will and energy, each and every year the UK would be ending in top 5. It really has a potential for such things. But the BBC doesn't use (almost) any of that. And as a consequence - they fail and than blame everyone else but them.

the problem in Belgium sometimes is the media - when they said "another" eastern country has won, people automatically think: political voting!
But when like Norway, Germany, Sweden won, they just shut up.
And when Tom was 6th, nobody complained.
I hate that, ESC is 90% not political

 

[NikkiBoy]

ESC is sometimes political.
Greece & Serbia cut dance with a garbage Bag, and they will go to the final..
Some little countries with good songs, like Slovenia this year is so underrated in ESC.

 

[NikkiBoy]

And i understand why: Andorra, Monaco, Poland and in the future Slovakia and the tiny countries like San Marino.
They are so damn underrated. Without a Jury the tiny countries will be last every single year!