United Kingdom UNITED KINGDOM 2023 - Mae Muller - I Wrote a Song

[ESC United Mod Team]

 

[gigi_copp3]

I heard the snippet. It's not that good but it's not last place material either.

 

[Dolly Blue]

If if all goes badly and TaP don’t decide to part ways then good news! Andrew Cartmell (HOD) and Lee Smithurst (AHOD) will hopefully return to the top of the UK delegation to fix it again in 2024. They are both missing this year to run the contest.

We can but hope but our reputation is probably going to be in bits again

 

[Synergise]

Sensing it’s not a popular opinion at the moment but I’m going to need to hear Rina turned them down or wasn’t available because I need to hear some justification for this car crash of a decision.

Absolutely. I know it would never happen, for many reasons, but especially when a selection is internal and the country gets no say in who represents them, it really would be good to get better transparency on what criteria are being used to select entries.

Again, I know I'm jumping the gun here, but based on the minute we've heard - at what point has someone identified 'I Wrote a Song' as being a winner, or Eurovision competitive? TaP would have been inundated with options this year, so why this? It just doesn't click for me that this could have been regarded by anyone as a smart choice if the goal was to win on home soil.

But who knows, maybe the song goes somewhere I'm not expecting it to and it blows me out of the water, and TaP do know what they're doing after all. It's just not a particularly convincing 60 seconds...

I think regardless of the UK's result this year, there will still be lots of credible artists that will want to try to represent the UK next year - at least we have a proven recent record that a UK entry can do well. And if the UK doesn't do very well, I doubt the BBC will abandon TaP immediately, given a) Sam's success, and b) not having any better alternatives.

We can but hope but our reputation is probably going to be in bits again

It won't be 'in bits' after one bad result. The argument that the UK can never do well in the contest is dead, and will stay that way for a few years at least.

 

[HarryUK]

I’m actually wondering how long it’ll take for a statement or one of ‘Team UK’ to call for unity following the backlash this is already getting on social media… definitely not what they wanted

 

[ArmpitOfEurope]

I’m actually wondering how long it’ll take for a statement or one of ‘Team UK’ to call for unity following the backlash this is already getting on social media… definitely not what they wanted

tbh uk fans wouldnt have been satisfied with anything, one good result and the nose up in the sky, they were shading freaking Birdy!
Lets wait and listen to the song first

 

[CrimTV]

The theatrics in this thread… acting like the song is the worst thing ever recorded. It’s not even bad

 

[HarryUK]

tbh uk fans wouldnt have been satisfied with anything, one good result and the nose up in the sky, they were shading freaking Birdy!
Lets wait and listen to the song first

To go from something as special as Space Man last year to a generic radio bop this year though… people are justifiably disappointed and even frustrated. One step forward, two back it would seem.

 

[Kitakaze]

The theatrics in this thread… acting like the song is the worst thing ever recorded. It’s not even bad

“Not the worst thing ever recorded”, “good enough”, “not that bad” should tell you all you need to know about our chances this year.

 

[grazy2266]

The theatrics in this thread… acting like the song is the worst thing ever recorded. It’s not even bad

The UK thread is truly unique in every way lol

 

[CrimTV]

“Not the worst thing ever recorded”, “good enough”, “not that bad” should tell you all you need to know about our chances this year.

Seems to be the unpopular opinion but I actually really like the snippet. I’m not saying it’s “not the worst thing ever recorded” i’m saying that people are acting LIKE it is. People are throwing their toys out the pram like children, Mae Muller is a human being don’t forget.

 

[stuartmcd]

To go from something as special as Space Man last year to a generic radio bop this year though… people are justifiably disappointed and even frustrated. One step forward, two back it would seem.

Are we really acting like Space Man was a great song? I liked it but as a song it’s fairly simple and the lyrics are mediocre. There were much better songs last year than Space Man. But what sold it was Sam himself and how he was able to elevate that song through the staging and performance. He is a showman and performed the hell out of it.

So let’s see what Mae can do. For one let’s actually hear the full song and then let’s see how they’re going to bring it to life. I hope they have some kind of One Show performance planned like last year to give Mae a chance to show off her personality.

 

[Kitakaze]

Seems to be the unpopular opinion but I actually really like the snippet. I’m not saying it’s “not the worst thing ever recorded” i’m saying that people are acting LIKE it is. People are throwing their toys out the pram like children, Mae Muller is a human being don’t forget.

I don’t condone people insulting Mae but people are entitled to feel disappointed, frustrated and perplexed in equal measure.

 

[Rocket man]

“Not the worst thing ever recorded”, “good enough”, “not that bad” should tell you all you need to know about our chances this year.

Reminds me of "Embers" from James Newman, that had a similar reaction. And we all know what the end result was.

 

[CrimTV]

Yes exactly Space Man got a very lukewarm reception when it first came out but was elevated by Sam and his performance. Let’s not act like Space Man was the holy grail of music

 

[CrimTV]

Reminds me of "Embers" from James Newman, that had a similar reaction. And we all know what the end result was.

pls this is so much better than Embers after just a 40 second clip

 

[Rocket man]

Are we really acting like Space Man was a great song? I liked it but as a song it’s fairly simple and the lyrics are mediocre. There were much better songs last year than Space Man. But what sold it was Sam himself and how he was able to elevate that song through the staging and performance. He is a showman and performed the hell out of it.

So let’s see what Mae can do. For one let’s actually hear the full song and then let’s see how they’re going to bring it to life. I hope they have some kind of One Show performance planned like last year to give Mae a chance to show off her personality.

"Space Man" is a good song, it reminded people of Elton John and Freddie Mercury in places, the reason Sam Ryder was able to sell it was because he has talent. What's Mae Muller got?

 

[Rocket man]

pls this is so much better than Embers after just a 40 second clip

It's getting a similar reaction though, Love Island type songs that are basic and flop at Eurovision.

 

[Sean]

I'll reserve the right to judge this but for my personal taste Rina with "Holy" would've been my genuine #1 of the year and I feel would've had a very good chance of success at Eurovision. Perhaps Rina was never even in contention but she's the only act who had a SIGNIFICANT amount of evidence (or shall we say, coincidences) stacking up in her favour this year.

I'm just not convinced that IWAS is going to be anywhere near as competitive. Happy to be proven wrong, of course.

And to those who ask why UK fans aren't satisfied with some of the options rumoured, we've finally had a taste of the good life for once. Forgive us if we're not willing to rush back to bland entries in the bottom 5 in a hurry and want to stay competitive year on year.

 

[grazy2266]

"Space Man" is a good song, it reminded people of Elton John and Freddie Mercury in places, the reason Sam Ryder was able to sell it was because he has talent. What's Mae Muller got?

I don't know, but maybe if we wait and see we're find out

 

[stuartmcd]

"Space Man" is a good song, it reminded people of Elton John and Freddie Mercury in places, the reason Sam Ryder was able to sell it was because he has talent. What's Mae Muller got?

Yes a good song. Not a great song.

Well let’s see what Mae Muller has. We haven’t even heard the full song yet let alone any idea of staging. So let’s give her the chance to show us what she can do.

And let’s bear in mind that a music video is not a good indication of staging for Eurovision. There were some people last year that genuinely believed Sam would be in a flying armchair in Turin.