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United Kingdom UNITED KINGDOM 2020 - James Newman - My Last Breath
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Nemo89
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I love when people say phrases like "The UK always sends artists with fascinating voices but they won't win. But, I want to remind everyone, I love the UK!". It is the same thing when a woman says to a man "You are nice, cute, wonderful but we can only be friends". I foresee a love story and televoting between France and Sweden and the Scandinavian countries. Maybe I'm wrong though, "when you think badly you can guess sometimes".I change my score. It's nice but has zero wow-factor. The UK is walking in it's own footsteps: sending cute and lowkey charming entries which struggle to have that it-factor which makes people pick up their phones and vote. I really don't see this translating well on stage, and I hope I'm going to have to eat my own words in May because I love the UK and I dream of having them win again.
Perhaps this could get top 10 from the jury if the UK is lucky but I suspect bottom 5 in televote.
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Excuse me, I take extreme offence at that!
So it WAS you then who said "am a bik fen ov yourovizyon cos its kItScH aNd CaMpY
" then a load of other shit no eurofan would actually say.
dezbee2008
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8 points. Currently my third behind Armenia and Latvia. It's a song I wouldn't normally like, but after the disappointment from several countries, someone has to step up at least
RainyWoods
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Excuse me, I take extreme offence at that!
I thought of you actually when our mysterious Gary caller came on air to talk about our song. Excitement about that new car and your birthday celebrations really must have made our Eurovision expert quite dizzy this morning. Our entry apparently sounds like The Netherlands from last year and you expect us to pick up some sympathy points cause everyone hates us. Also, you believe we can win
What is this? an actual article from a British News outlet that gets Eurovision and what our problem has been?
www.independent.co.uk
Opinion: This man could finally break the UK’s Eurovision curse – yes, really
Regardless of how well we do, one thing’s for sure – James Newman’s entry and songwriting credentials will kick the door wide open for us
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IMO, Spain and UK songs sound pretty similar this year.
Both are well produced songs but they lack of interest. Both have a good start, but they eventually lose their appealing and completely flop when the chorus arrives. Both are pretty generic, to be honest.
I would like to say they will have a better result this year, but I don't know if these two songs may stand out over another 24 songs.
Both are well produced songs but they lack of interest. Both have a good start, but they eventually lose their appealing and completely flop when the chorus arrives. Both are pretty generic, to be honest.
I would like to say they will have a better result this year, but I don't know if these two songs may stand out over another 24 songs.
RainyWoods
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I never thought I'd see the day i'd be defending our entry.it's not so much to my taste, although I do enjoy it. I can recognise the positives. It probably is a matter of people wanting something else but if i'm being honest I do believe with some there is a level of hating on the UK because it's fashionable, but only with a few so don't @ me pls. I said in a previous post but there is comparisons to Austria 2018 people have made and iirc that was pretty much under the radar also until May. The authenticity and the fact he wrote it himself is the biggest selling point for me, as it's something the BBC has horribly neglected in the past with our entries looking so anonymous and with 0 connection to the singer. I hope it is a turning point for the future, it is for this year at least, but the BBC has a rich history of ditching their format for entry selection year in year out, so who knows. I look forward to see what they will do with this in May.
You gotta put taste, genre wishes etc to one side and look at it more objectively. I usually wouldn't defend our entries and I'm unsure at this point I can even make a prediction as to how well we'll do here. Will need to hear the remaining songs. But as you said, fans didn't care about Austria 2018 and look what happened, and there have been plenty of other moments quite similar to that. This isn't a song for our bop craving bodies but the general public and juries specifically could react a lot, lot better.
This route is exactly what I wanted from the BBC and I'd like them to carry it on, just with genre switch ups each year please. I've said for years now that I don't even care if I dislike the song. I just wanted us to leave the awful song factories and embarrassing mindset of what is required of a Eurovision entry behind us, and we've done it. This is the first time in years I won't be rooting against my own entry. I wish it success. It's even got woah oh ohs and I don't wish it dead, bless me.
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i echo the comparisons to austria 2018, an entry i actually dislike quite a bit. that wasn't a hit with fans, it got a ZERO in the grand final press poll, and then it won jury and was midtable televote (and single-handledly built the Austrian Bubble of Delusion which stands strong to this day, bless those lunatics in the austria thread). midtable televote would be gold dust to the uk nowadays, regardless of the jury result, so if people got behind that one enough for that, why not james, who (imo) has a much, much better and more genuine song? everyone starts somewhere. this is an incredibly good move by the BBC. (there is a first for every sentence...)
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What is this? an actual article from a British News outlet that gets Eurovision and what our problem has been?
Opinion: This man could finally break the UK’s Eurovision curse – yes, really
Regardless of how well we do, one thing’s for sure – James Newman’s entry and songwriting credentials will kick the door wide open for us
If there's something more annoying than Mihai Traistariu, it's the people who know nothing about Eurovision and make statements as if they know everything.
Dis guy is taking a very reasonable and neutral approach to the subject and dis article should be distributed to every UK citizen to finally realize Europeans don't give zero f about Brexit. Even Israel won the contest during one of the most controversial periods of their diplomatic relations. Some people should really educate themselves.
FilipFromSweden
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I love when people say phrases like "The UK always sends artists with fascinating voices but they won't win. But, I want to remind everyone, I love the UK!". It is the same thing when a woman says to a man "You are nice, cute, wonderful but we can only be friends". I foresee a love story and televoting between France and Sweden and the Scandinavian countries. Maybe I'm wrong though, "when you think badly you can guess sometimes".
In my defence!!! I’m studying in the UK for 6 months and after 2 months I’ve complained at a lot of things like lack of heat, damp, agressive drivers etc. so perhaps I overcompensated
RainyWoods
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And James Newman is a cute cub with sizeable lips. Another plus.
Bless his soul. Go James Newman.
Bless his soul. Go James Newman.
FilipFromSweden
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Don’t be so dismissive of drag, it’s a genuine and legit artform. Frock Destroyers has 3.3 million streams on Spotify as well
Exactly, and Russia came second a year after essentially starting a war and when people were actually booing them in the arena. I mean, when has the UK entry ever been booed?
Well you can guarantee if we were to somehow get a similar result there wont be any bubble of delusion in the UK topic, we're too cynical to be start tapping every entry we pick to our veins.I just mean considering the BBC and British attitude in years gone by, people would tear us apart if we picked a drag act because they'd believe it's been done for all the wrong reasons.
I thought you were Swedish?
Isn't it colder there? As for damp, we're quite a wet marshy country so wait until summer when we get a heatwave. It will be really uncomfortable and humid. Not the dry heat like when you go on your holidays to southern Europe or wherever.
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OK, first impression!
For better and for worse, this sounds like something that would make the final of Melfest but nobody would really care that much about it, or alternatively, something that would make the superfinal of Tomi Rahula's Eesti Laul for a lack of anything else (except I actually like this one LOL OWNED AGAIN #firetomirahula). It's authentic and well-written, there's obviously a lot of heart there, and it's certainly better than our last couple of offerings, but there's nothing about it that really grabs the attention from a televote perspective. It'll get lost in a sea of 26 songs.
Unless, unless! They make use of the extra thirty seconds to create a Douwe Bob moment, a Lea Sirk moment, hell, even something better. I can't think of anything off the top of my head as to what that could possibly be, but there's scope for something extra special, and that's not something you could say about many British entries this millennium. I have hope!
This gets a healthy 6 for me, but it could go higher.
For better and for worse, this sounds like something that would make the final of Melfest but nobody would really care that much about it, or alternatively, something that would make the superfinal of Tomi Rahula's Eesti Laul for a lack of anything else (except I actually like this one LOL OWNED AGAIN #firetomirahula). It's authentic and well-written, there's obviously a lot of heart there, and it's certainly better than our last couple of offerings, but there's nothing about it that really grabs the attention from a televote perspective. It'll get lost in a sea of 26 songs.
Unless, unless! They make use of the extra thirty seconds to create a Douwe Bob moment, a Lea Sirk moment, hell, even something better. I can't think of anything off the top of my head as to what that could possibly be, but there's scope for something extra special, and that's not something you could say about many British entries this millennium. I have hope!
This gets a healthy 6 for me, but it could go higher.
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I thought you were Swedish?
As for damp, we're quite a wet marshy country so wait until summer when we get a heatwave. It will be really uncomfortable and humid. Not the dry heat like when you go on your holidays to southern Europe or wherever.
I hate to sound so posh but ... we actually isolate our walls and homes and keep the heating on at all times. And we don’t need to turn on a boiler for a hot shower
The UK is amazing at comfort food, finding entertainment, TV, cafés, museums, partying and shopping though. I love Brighton despite all the whining!!!
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THE GOOD:
-It’s got a good beat to it.
-Overall, this is a good, slightly groovy song.
THE BAD:
-A minor thing, but I don’t like the way he sings the lyric “…my last…breath”. It seems very early-aughts to me.
THE VERDICT:
In its own way, this is a good song. It’s not my preference, but I do like the rasp in James’ voice, and it works with the instrumentals in the song. It’s a good song, but it’ll need amazing staging if it is to stand any chance of being on the left side of the table in May. 8 points
-It’s got a good beat to it.
-Overall, this is a good, slightly groovy song.
THE BAD:
-A minor thing, but I don’t like the way he sings the lyric “…my last…breath”. It seems very early-aughts to me.
THE VERDICT:
In its own way, this is a good song. It’s not my preference, but I do like the rasp in James’ voice, and it works with the instrumentals in the song. It’s a good song, but it’ll need amazing staging if it is to stand any chance of being on the left side of the table in May. 8 points
Well idk what place you're staying in but only old houses have a boiler now.
Also most houses have full insulation, and all new builds do. Probably you just stay in somewhere old. I've only ever been in 1 house with a proper full on boiler and it was a farm house. XDOh Brighton is wonderful.
I'm happy you're having a great time here.