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United Kingdom UNITED KINGDOM 2016 - Joe & Jake - You're Not Alone

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Romeo

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I didn't mean you, sorry if you thought that. If you go on their Facebook page etc the comment sections are full of people complaining at the voting results not being released, or that is what I've seen anyway.

Also, it's not like it's an out of character thing for the BBC to do. The last time they released the full voting break down of how many votes were cast was in 1998 and before that 1995, since then every NF either had only a partial breakdown of the voting results or no voting breakdown released at all.

dont worry, its just me being a moaning little bitch lol

I just don't agree with the fact they have people calling in and paying to vote and then they don't announce the full results.. I couldn't mind if they released the order, I don't want a detailed list.. just who came where. but it seems strange to me that even after a request they wont release the information and makes me wonder why

and they are using the EU to hide behind.. I don't see the big issue releasing the information.. what do they have to hide?

I am also trying to find the independent company who were checking the validity of the results
 

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dont worry, its just me being a moaning little bitch lol

I just don't agree with the fact they have people calling in and paying to vote and then they don't announce the full results.. I couldn't mind if they released the order, I don't want a detailed list.. just who came where. but it seems strange to me that even after a request they wont release the information and makes me wonder why

and they are using the EU to hide behind.. I don't see the big issue releasing the information.. what do they have to hide?

I am also trying to find the independent company who were checking the validity of the results

Well yes, i don't see why they wont release it, but imo it's much of an issue. If this was the broadcaster from somewhere like Belarus then I'd questioning, but it's the BBC, in the UK. Call me stupid if you like, but I trust the BBC to hold a fair vote without them messing with the results. As you know, the results are moderated anyway to check their validity. Imagine the scandal that would engulf the BBC if it did come out that they had fixed the result? It's not something that happens very often here, and right now BBC wants the public support.
 

Carrie

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Wouldn't surprise me if it was a rig. We all know what goes on behind closed doors at the BBC anyway.
 

Romeo

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Wouldn't surprise me if it was a rig. We all know what goes on behind closed doors at the BBC anyway.

after what happened with ITV getting that £5million fine for vote rigging, would the BBC do it too? (anything is possible)
 

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Why would they rig a small scale eurovision national final on BBC 4? :lol: I doubt they care enough about it. The Voice would be a much more likely candidate imo.
 

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If there was any rigging (and I don't think there was) it probably would have been for Bianca or Darline and not Joe and Jake. I would even say Joe and Jake winning was definitely not what they wanted. Not their worst case scenario but definitely not their dream.

I think if Bianca or Darline had won the BBC game plan would be much different. There be more hype, attention, promotion and press coming from them. It feels like the BBC didn't get the result they wanted and are doing the barest necessity with what they were given. That's of course just my personal view ;)
 

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If there was any rigging (and I don't think there was) it probably would have been for Bianca or Darline and not Joe and Jake. I would even say Joe and Jake winning was definitely not what they wanted. Not their worst case scenario but definitely not their dream.

I think if Bianca or Darline had won the BBC game plan would be much different. There be more hype, attention, promotion and press coming from them. It feels like the BBC didn't get the result they wanted and are doing the barest necessity with what they were given. That's of course just my personal view ;)

will you please just support me on my venture to find out the results! haha joke

really? I though J&J would have been exactly what teh BBC wanted.. The Voice contestants.. promoting a BBC show etc...
 

GWTW1939

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will you please just support me on my venture to find out the results! haha joke

really? I though J&J would have been exactly what teh BBC wanted.. The Voice contestants.. promoting a BBC show etc...

Well when you list all their connections with the BBC I guess you're right. That does however make me more confused as to why everything feels so low key. They seem to be flying under the radar with little buzz or attention. All like, "well we have a lost cause on our hands so let's just get it done with with as little spotlight as possible."
 

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I was just wondering if the results would ever be released. It would be interesting to see who came second and third and by how much. Also, it's completely harmless information IMO so the secrecy isn't warranted. If they released even just the top 3, at least the public would know how most of the votes played out.

My guess would be Bianca came second and Darline third.
 

FilipFromSweden

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This is quite suspicious and it's a behaviour that I would expect from Russia, Belarus or Azerbaijan but not the UK. It would be one thing if they would want to release it all in an official message instead of just handing it out to a fan but this does not go well with me.
 

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The BBC never release voting figures for any of their tv shows. It's not just a Eurovision thing.

While I would have liked to know a top 3, I think it's much better that we don't know the full results. It's enough of a risk for a British singer to enter a Eurovision national final as it is. Why would you want to publicly embarrass one of the acts by revealing they came dead last with 0.8% of the vote?
 

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They do this for all their shows this is no exception, even when they get freedom of information requests. Google strictly and revealing of results and you will get many answers as to why. There is also a factor for BT on commerciality there go to provider who have been the most reluctant to reveal results which should be easy to find. I would link but as I feel like crap at the moment I can't be asked. (As has been mentioned other broadcasters do as they have been proven to defraud viewers.)
 

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Still no videoclip on top for UK?! :?
 

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Nice to see something good, especially from UK, but Molly in 2014 was much better
 

GWTW1939

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On a personal level I never got the Molly hype. If I had to rank, since 2009 and the return of the jury, for me its down at the bottom with poor Josh :oops: I enjoyed all the others far more even if I knew they were competitively crap.
 

zs1001

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I expect typical UK, 20+ result from this song. Sorry UK, you do not take serious ESC and but voters are always righteous.
 

Romeo

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I think this song 100% dependent on performance and running order. It is easily forgettable and I think it needs to be late on in the runnning order. I can see it achieving 14th/15th if they have a good running order and have something special in the performance like using the audience like they do in the video. I dont see it ending last and it certainly wont win but I think it could be the best result since Blue if everything works in their favour
 

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Awfully underrated. Not saying they'll do well considering the fairly luke-warm reaction, but this is still in my top 5. It's most similar to my general music taste out of all the songs and the feel-good factor is really strong here without being obnoxious. My leg justs taps along to it always, I want so sing along, it's super catchy. Definetly fits in with the mood of Eurovision, which is a plus. There are some awesome melody bits, but I especially like the production and how different elements kick in as the song goes on. It's all just dynamic and nice and and so pleasant to listen to and utterly uplifting in the best way... Definetly one of my favourites and I really hope they somehow get into the top 15. :D
 
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