^ Even if it was like that, it wouldn't be any different from the pressure exerted by some western broadcasters on the reference group to re-introduce the 'jury' vote back in 2008 (and now probably to keep it). It's natural everyone standeth up for conditions benefitting themselves most, and TRT is no exception. The fact that Turkey would be favoured by another method can't be an impediment, it's like saying a criminal is not entitled to complain about unfair process guiding. Add to that that TRT is not even responsible for their own nation's diaspora. However, I agree it would look more credible if other less 'favoured' broadcasters joined them in their protest.
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While this governmet is so passionate about European Union, they made big progress in candidacy, and they even established a ministery for European Union progress; why would they escape a song contest of Europe?
I think this is the silliness of the president of TRT, nothing else.
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Isn't İbrahim Şahin is mental or something? 
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If true it just proves that nationalism and anti-"Europenism" (and obviously being a sore loser) is what caused TRT withdrawing, so I won't miss them. Unfortunate though for the Turkish ESC fans.
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I quite like the idea of Turk(o)vision. It surely won't become as camp and commercialised as ESC.
Well, if you like an even more politicized and culturally divided contest then yeah it's great...
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That is just ridiculous. TRT is ridiculous.
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I have no idea why Hurriet Daily News worded things that way when, apparently, Turkvision had been around since 2011.
EDIT: Good god, TRT, way to be confusing. Apparently, the previous song festival was called Türkçevīzyon and the new song contest is called Türkvīzyon. *SHRUGS*
EDIT: Good god, TRT, way to be confusing. Apparently, the previous song festival was called Türkçevīzyon and the new song contest is called Türkvīzyon. *SHRUGS*
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That's not something new and it is not an alternative to Eurovision. There're lots of countries with Turk societies, and speaking different Turkish accents. Turkey has tried to organize lots of times this kind of organizations. The goal of this, having a competition between Turkish speaking countries and create a bridge between different Turk societies. What is the problem with that?
Eurovision will always have its importance in Turkey, I'm sure Turkey will be back to ESC near or far.
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I think Turkey will be back in the near future as well. It'll be hard for TRT to admit defeat but they'll eventually do it.
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Nothing wrong with it, but if it's used as a substitution for ESC and considering TRT's lame excuses and current approach regarding ESC, then yeah one can comment on it.
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As you made fun of it in Azerbaijan thread as well, let me explain. The people who run TRT hate the idea of Turkic Union, as well as Aliyev. So, your point is totally of ignorance to Turkish politics.
As for TRT's decision, it is politic decision ! There is no claim like TRT dislike the big 5 thing. It is just that they are such bigots. No comeback will happen as someone claims too. Because it is a politic decision. Big 5 thing and so called unfair voting is only a cover, TRT is bigot, which is run by bigot government. This new contest thing is also a cover. They know what they are doing and I don't give a damn to the decision of TRT. Turkey is out and I can live with it.
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I have no idea what your point with this comment is as it's filled with contradictory statements
I didn't even talk about Turkish politics, I talked about TRT (which of course is partly connected to the government in some form since it's state-runned, though I didn't really mention that). You call me ignorant for no good reason at all for my criticism of TRT, and then you go on calling this political (the withdrawal from ESC) and that they're (TRT) bigots... so I have no idea what you're on about me being ignorant then
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OK, my point is that TRT hates Turkic union idea whereas you say TRT likes this idea. Also, TRT is not partly connected to government, TRT is totally connected to government. I'm also against the ones who claim that TRT's main reason for withdrawal is big 5 and/or unfair?! voting.I have no idea what your point with this comment is as it's filled with contradictory statements
I didn't even talk about Turkish politics, I talked about TRT (which of course is partly connected to the government in some form since it's state-runned, though I didn't really mention that). You call me ignorant for no good reason at all for my criticism of TRT, and then you go on calling this political (the withdrawal from ESC) and that they're (TRT) bigots... so I have no idea what you're on about me being ignorant then
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iraq and China have turkish minority,
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We don't claim this. We quote it. TRT obviously says, the reason for withdraw is mainly jury system and slightly five big. Should we believe in official statements or speculations? I don't agree with your speculations.