kengaIME
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I hope they come back.
Turkey TURKEY 2014
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Nikkita
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As Turkish fans,i don't see any chance of hope.
I think 2012 was the end if some smart channel doesn't attend to EBU
I think 2012 was the end if some smart channel doesn't attend to EBU
escYOUnited
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The odds are Turkey won't be back for #eurovision 2014.
No return for Turkey in 2014??? - escunited.com
No return for Turkey in 2014??? - escunited.com
DanielLuis
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If they really only will return if those demands are fullfilled, then my opinion is: Bye bye Turkey!
It's their right to sit out if they don't agree with the contest however I find it hard to have sympathy for them cause the only reason they are anti jury is because of the 50 point head start Turkey gets in the televote.
QwaarJet
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Couldn't care less whether Turkey return. It'll also continue to upset the voting blocs, which can't be a bad thing.
Source?
DanielLuis
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Common sense.
One would think that voting corruption as well as the contest's ongoing cheesification is more repellent even to TRT than a rather contigent decline in the significance of diaspora votes (what anyhow could be accomplished without a jury if the televoting system was used correctly but this is another issue).
Obviously the number I mentioned was made up and was meant as figure of speech. The point was that the diaspora voting has been a contributing factor to Turkey's success at Eurovision so I find it rather amusing that out of all countries, they are the ones to cry over unfair voting.
As said, if they feel the need to withdraw then that's their right but I think the overwhelming negative reaction towards their behavior speaks for itself. I'm still hoping for a change of heart, there are so many Turkish Eurovision fans out there and I know not having your country to root for must suck big time.
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No offense, but it is like the bottom five from trendy turkish songs.
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Come on, do you really think there is a chance for Turkey to be back? Our current government sucked everything. TRT is a state channel so we have to wait until next selections. If something changes then we may discuss about Turkey to be back or not. I don't believe the reason is jury votes. This is just an excuse, deep down their cause is completely different.
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DanielLuis
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I just can't see how some people can't realize this, or better, refuse to realize this.
Or maybe it is you who has difficulties to accept that not everybody is sharing your opinion on your beloved juries?
DanielLuis
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Or maybe it is you who has difficulties to accept that others do not share your opinion on your beloved juries?
I don't specially love juries (though I certainly prefer eurovision with them) and I accept your and others opinions about them.
It's just strange that you cannot see that TRT is basically using excuses. They might not really like juries but it is definitely not for the reasons yous tated, but rather because they know they had a good advantage with the telvoting (and it's just dumb to deny that).
And they also probably withdrew because of political reasons. (Big 5 not being equal may be a way of saying that)