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FilipFromSweden

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- Christer Björkman: one who is obsessed with his own country's success, should produce the national final at best and nothing more to say in the actual Eurovision

Please tell me how Christer did anything to help Sweden get a good score this year. Benjamin drawed the 2nd half ticket himself, 14-16 is basically the only ones that would've been worse. But whatever, you are all blind of hatred towards Christer who lives, loves and breathes Eurovision and has an experience in similar events which is why he got the job.
 

Alaska49

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people are not phrasing it well, so i will do it again: i am sure christer bjorkman isn't a devious mastermind but it is clear he is no longer doing a proper job in eurovision and shouldn't get this job anymore. it's not a problem with him personally but eurovision needs this change.
 

FilipFromSweden

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people are not phrasing it well, so i will do it again: i am sure christer bjorkman isn't a devious mastermind but it is clear he is no longer doing a proper job in eurovision and shouldn't get this job anymore. it's not a problem with him personally but eurovision needs this change.

Surely one who has worked for SVT/Sweden shouldn’t set a running-order, but to be fair he probably does tons of behind-the-scenes work
 

lavieenrose

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christer bjorkman isn't a devious mastermind

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Neo

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-- the current concept of juries
-- producer running order
-- french language in hosting (nobody who doesn't speak french cares)
-- if possible, odds (can EBU legally stop oddsmakers from creating eurovision bets? if they can, they should)

This, just adjust to no juries and add the top 5 pre-qualified.
 

Alaska49

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i mean, audience shots are not something ebu needs to FORBID lol, but these channels need to seriously realize that, unless it's a moment like the ending of mercy or the stage dive in viszlat nyar, showing the audience over your act breaks performance momentum for the public and is just a huge disservice to the act. ever year the top ranked songs either have very little audience shots or show the audience actually engaging the camera like in toy. the writing is on the wall and always has been.
 

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"Heroes" needs to go, whenever I have ESC 2018 on Autoplay on youtube. After 5 songs always comes Heroes. So sneaky!!
 

Brandt

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I don't get the point with english language though? Many people in Europe or overall the audience more commonly speak English rather than French, German, Portuguese or any other one. Why would the hosts speak in a language that less people speak? If anything, I would get rid of French language for good because we don't really need it at all. All the TV commentators explain important stuff anyway.
 

LalehForWD

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christer-jpg

The ultimate master xbowxbowxbow

Unfortunately, he will soon be gone and we'll have to settle with the ones lurking in the shadows
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- The running order chosen by the producers NEED to go! There are ways to make a diverse running order (genre/tempo pots for instance) yet use a random draw to determine it. It never was, isn't and never will be a fair and transparent solution.

- Spokesperson ONLY announcing the 12pts now is just too fast and boring, although I agree with the current voting system of dividing the public and juries, it takes away the suspense and I think they could at least go back to the system when the spokesperson announced the top. 3.

- I think allowing more people on stage should be allowed, of course it shouldn't be compulsory, but the option should be there. I think they could at least allow 8 people instead of 6 like now, it would make a difference if the entry is for instance a high energy one with dancers included.

- The juries NEED to go if they will continue punish entries that are daring, different and/-or native/ethnic. We see way too often how safe they are in their choices and it's really hurting the contest, the musical diversity and its purpose.
 

Gabe

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big 5

go through the semi like the rest of us

The Big 5 pay 50% of the total participation fees so that it's financially viable for small countries to participate in the contest. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.
 

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Diaspora-Voting must be forbidden, because right now Countries like Serbia and Russia have unfair advantages over Austria and Switzerland.
 

Ezio

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Diaspora-Voting must be forbidden, because right now Countries like Serbia and Russia have unfair advantages over Austria and Switzerland.

The points for Serbia this year are a bad joke indeed. Mostly voted on last place everywhere, except for a few countries that are their neighbours or have their diaspora.
 

DaFlo

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Non Diaspora voting must be forbidden. In fact full jury results is the way to go. #real #est #since2002
 

Leydan

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Non Diaspora voting must be forbidden. In fact full jury results is the way to go. #real #est #since2002

Better yet, elimate the jury as well and just let me hand pick the winner each year.
 

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The points for Serbia this year are a bad joke indeed. Mostly voted on last place everywhere, except for a few countries that are their neighbours or have their diaspora.

That is why we have juries! :)
 

EscGeek

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The Big 5 pay 50% of the total participation fees so that it's financially viable for small countries to participate in the contest. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

i know, but this is a fantasy thread;)
 

LalehForWD

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The Big 5 pay 50% of the total participation fees so that it's financially viable for small countries to participate in the contest. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

No, you're wrong. Eurovision is financed by the host country, with a small contribution of 5-10% from the EBU. All countries pay for their own costs for participating (what else?). If you don't believe me, just look up BBCs budget and you will see it's consistently lies around 2-300000 euros/year for Eurovision, just enough to produce the UKs own contribution. If anyone know figures about rebates or financial support to poor countries, please post them. My guess is the 5-10% contribution from the EBU is in fact the sum of the participation fees, which could vary from country to country.

edit, see for example:
https://bfmbusiness.bfmtv.com/entreprise/organiser-l-eurovision-un-gouffre-financier-888871.html
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/05/13/how-much-does-it-cost-eurovision-song-contest-and-is-it-worth-it/
 
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