Things that need to go

[Lindon]

Estonia 2014, Russia 2018...?

I found it. It was in this documentary approximately at 80:35

 

[Realest]

I found it. It was in this documentary approximately at 80:35

2009?

 

[Lindon]

2009?

Elena Gheorghe "The Balkan Girls". Hard to say. If she was cheating it was done very skillfully.

 

[Realest]

Swedophobes & Conspiracies about Sweden at Eurovision

 

[Preuss]

Swedophobes & Conspiracies about Sweden at Eurovision

Definitely

 

[BernadetteCydonia]

I'd like to see hidden backing singers go in 2019. All singers should be on the stage, now they're hiding behind the stage?

amen

 

[blue00eyes]

... post-eurovision points and voting system nerd analyses tbh

 

[Realest]

... post-eurovision points and voting system nerd analyses tbh

Oh no, thats my favouritepart during PED

 

[VikingTiger]

Swedophobes & Conspiracies about Sweden at Eurovision

....and all the other conspiracy theories...Which flourish vividly in this site.

 

[Charly]

Things that need to go?


Christer Björkman

 

[midnightsun]

....and all the other conspiracy theories...Which flourish vividly in this site.

Yeah, sorry, but you know... silly season

Hope it's February soon to get some Eurovision fodder again.

 

[Pawhlen]

Has anyone in here argumented why they hate Björkman so much? (with that I mean a little bit more than "he is bad" and so on)

I really want to see someone back up their thoughts with more thoughts than just oneliners

 

[midnightsun]

In my opinion (just my personal opinion) Björkman tries to covert Eurovision into some kind of Saturday Night music tv show, where all that matters is a great production and good viewing figures, thus the constant change to "improve" things. When he started he introduced the determination of the running order, something that I still find very unfair. Also, but that's just my personal opinion, I have a feeling that he tries to hone some songs/countries as winners, trying to push them as far as possible by doing them some favors, like e.g. the said running order. So if you are a top favourite in the betting odds you get pampered by Björkman because he sees the potential "star of the evening" in you. Other countries don't have a chance. But weren't the viewing figures better before Björkman? I think so. So why determing the running order when people would watch it anyway, no matter if there are two ballads following each other or two rock songs... I don't think this is boring. I also have a feeling he's influencing other countries' juries, but I have no proof, that's just my feeling.

 

[hrcgfd]

Televoting in countries such as Montenegro, Albania, Moldova, San Marino... it's just unfair random that makes me cry, how long it will be equal to points from countries with high ratings?

 

[Realest]

If Germany had more Votingpower, Germany would be disadvantaged. So everyone must have the Same Votingpower.

 

[Preuss]

Yes, obviously a 12 from Germany and a 12 from Albania should count the same, or it wouldn't be Eurovision really!

Just curious though how the hell San Marino figures out their top 12 in televote??

 

[AlekS]

Televoting in countries such as Montenegro, Albania, Moldova, San Marino... it's just unfair random that makes me cry, how long it will be equal to points from countries with high ratings?

Forever. Every family member matters & nobody should be discriminated by their size. If you ruin the idea of inclusion you'll get your own shit thrown back at ya immediately .

 

[Himan]

Me go to San Marino. Me vote for Azarbaijan.

Says every conspiracist ever

 

[tuorem]

Forever. Every family member matters & nobody should be discriminated by their size. If you ruin the idea of inclusion you'll get your own shit thrown back at ya immediately .

It reminds me of the European Parliament where countries are given a number of seats according to how big their population is... :? And anyone can see it doesn't work so hopefully this isn't an idea that will ever apply to Eurovision.

 

[midnightsun]

Me go to San Marino. Me vote for Azarbaijan.

Says every conspiracist ever

I agree there went some things terribly wrong concerning Azerbaijan. But one twelvie of San Marino doesn't change anything, except it is really a good song from Azerbaijan and some other countries would vote for it anyway. It just matters if Azerbaijan goes to MANY countries and hands out some mobile phones to... well, don't talk about that.