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LalehForWD

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*lol* How creative.

Well actually it is, and this time I mean it ;);)

Any thread that specifies the name "Christer Björkman" is suspicious. Christer Björkman is not a public person, at least not outside Sweden. He has no official position, power or another platform of influence. He is not a figure like Trump who from a position of power feeds from attention and deliberately seeking controversy. It's apparent the Eurovision "fans" that criticise Christer Björkman have a very little clue of who he is or what he does. He's simply a symbol of hate to them. I find it sick and weird, even in a context of toxic internet "free speech", if you fancy that. To blame others, having scapegoats instead of discussing real issues is simply disgusting.
 

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Well actually it is, and this time I mean it ;);)

Any thread that specifies the name "Christer Björkman" is suspicious. Christer Björkman is not a public person, at least not outside Sweden. He has no official position, power or another platform of influence. He is not a figure like Trump who from a position of power feeds from attention and deliberately seeking controversy. It's apparent the Eurovision "fans" that criticise Christer Björkman have a very little clue of who he is or what he does. He's simply a symbol of hate to them. I find it sick and weird, even in a context of toxic internet "free speech", if you fancy that. To blame others, having scapegoats instead of discussing real issues is simple disgusting.

Ah, you meant it that way. I can't and don't want to say much about Björkman because I know too little about him. But this thread is not only about him and I thought your answer was related to all aspects. :lol:
 

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Well actually it is, and this time I mean it ;);)

Any thread that specifies the name "Christer Björkman" is suspicious. Christer Björkman is not a public person, at least not outside Sweden. He has no official position, power or another platform of influence. He is not a figure like Trump who from a position of power feeds from attention and deliberately seeking controversy. It's apparent the Eurovision "fans" that criticise Christer Björkman have a very little clue of who he is or what he does. He's simply a symbol of hate to them. I find it sick and weird, even in a context of toxic internet "free speech", if you fancy that. To blame others, having scapegoats instead of discussing real issues is simple disgusting.

Ah, you meant it that way. I can't and don't want to say much about Björkman because I know too little about him. But this thread is not only about him and I thought your answer was related to all aspects. :lol:
 

LalehForWD

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Ah, you meant it that way. I can't and don't want to say much about Björkman because I know too little about him. But this thread is not only about him and I thought your answer was related to all aspects. :lol:

I know
 

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The only change I want is the Big5 to perform as interval acts during the semis instead these cringe "comedy" clips
 

LalehForWD

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Must be a lookalike.

But here he's of course NOT acting like the private person Christer Björkman! He is employed, acting on orders from the employer and according to the rules of the competition. Do you think he is in Lisbon on his own mission? For fun? Because he is an evil genius? If you have any issues or complaints of his work, ask the Portuguese broadcaster. Sorry, but that's how the dull reality looks like.
 

Alaska49

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4. Built-in LED screen and floor should be mandatory for each host for the foreseeable future.
NEVERRRRRRR

led screens made staging repetitive and lazy last year and this year was such an improvement. it absolutely NEEDS to stay this way.


also i love the backtracking in this page of "christer bjorkman has no official position, power or influence" to "christer bjorkman is just doing the work he was hired for". really compelling argument. ebu and/or the hosting channel of the year needs to stop hiring christer bjorkman for anything.
 

DaFlo

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Following expressions are banned for 2019 season

"Diaspora-adjusted"
"No hate, but"
"In table midfield diaspora is way more important"
 

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Following expressions are banned for 2019 season

"Diaspora-adjusted"
"No hate, but"
"In table midfield diaspora is way more important"

No, as long as cluesless Persons like you or the Brasilian Troll exist, these Expressions need to stay.
 

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Agree about the draw. I'd also change the amount of juries. 5 people making up 50% of the votes is a bit too random! Change it to at least 10.
 

Alaska49

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i am not adding "Brasilian Troll" to my sig btw. "Troll" is there and the flag is on the side. redundant. please find me more creative titles.
 

QwaarJet

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NEVERRRRRRR

led screens made staging repetitive and lazy last year and this year was such an improvement. it absolutely NEEDS to stay this way.


also i love the backtracking in this page of "christer bjorkman has no official position, power or influence" to "christer bjorkman is just doing the work he was hired for". really compelling argument. ebu and/or the hosting channel of the year needs to stop hiring christer bjorkman for anything.

Staging awful, boring and repetitive this year. Too many performances looked the same. Regardless, I fully expect the LED screens back next year anyway.
 

Alaska49

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Staging awful, boring and repetitive this year. Too many performances looked the same.
as opposed to last year when the most common staging choice was the singer's own face on a screen? do we even watch the same show??
 

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I have to say, even if I loved this year's stage and probably prefer to LED I guess it's better to return to LED because not every country has the possibility (=money) to bring a lot of props to the stage, including their own LED screen. So let's just return to LED.
 

musicfan

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The only change I want is the Big5 to perform as interval acts during the semis instead these cringe "comedy" clips

The problem with the comedy stuff comes from when people started approaching Eurovision as some kind of camp comedy and this directly affected the presentation and the presenters. There used to actually be just one presenter, with several they increase the stilted dialogue between them.

In the final there should be a section where they show those songs that didn't qualify, because many don't even watch the semis.

Nobody's probably mentioned it, but stage security after three breaches in the last decade should actually be taken of. Though next year security in general will be a problem as they are heading to a war zone, Netta not helping saying it will be held in Jerusalem.

And I agree that producer involvement in the running order was too much.

There's always the question of what exactly is the point of juries too.
 

Gitte

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Countries that are constantly bombing people but win and get to organize the contest on what's basically a battlefield.The song they won with was good at least.
 
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