Things that need to go

[popavapeur]

And while the voting is using this current system, the country spokespersons should announce the televote and the hosts announced the combined jury vote, NOT the other way round as is currently the case.

that would be a disaster. showing the televote at the end make you believe you have a say, cause YOUR vote is making changes in the scoreboard, even if the 1st isn't the overall winner, you give it points too. Showing juries making changes in OUR votes will be like "why am I voting ? some juries somewhere can change everything". At the end it's the same ofc but the feeling at home is surely not the same.

 

[DaFlo]

Fans who bring politics up at every possible occasion.

 

[Fluke]

The silly, pointless and outdated prohibition of audible live instruments on stage. It came about in 1999 as a way to cut down the budgets at a time interest in the contest was at a low, and technology has improved very much since as well. If they can completely change the light rig from song to song, why not allow instruments that use just one microphone or a direct connection?

 

[Alaska49]

The male singers

honesty is a very respectable trait no matter how misguided it is

EBU NEEDS TO REMOVE:
-- christer bjorkman
-- the current concept of juries
-- producer running order
-- french language in hosting (nobody who doesn't speak french cares)
-- LED screens (don't even allow countries to bring their own - it encourages lazy staging)
-- if possible, odds (can EBU legally stop oddsmakers from creating eurovision bets? if they can, they should)

EBU NEEDS TO ADD:
-- more people on stage per country - up to 8 probably
-- live instrumentation
-- reading the 8 and 10 points again
-- a third semifinal

the 3 minute rule needs to stay, though, or else the grand final would go forever. countries with selections that allow longer songs such as italy and albania need to adapt better.

 

[John1]

honesty is a very respectable trait no matter how misguided it is

EBU NEEDS TO REMOVE:
-- christer bjorkman
-- the current concept of juries
-- producer running order
-- french language in hosting (nobody who doesn't speak french cares)
-- LCD screens (don't even allow countries to bring their own - it encourages lazy staging)
-- if possible, odds (can EBU legally stop oddsmakers from creating eurovision bets? if they can, they should)

EBU NEEDS TO ADD:
-- more people on stage per country - up to 8 probably
-- live instrumentation
-- reading the 8 and 10 points again
-- a third semifinal

the 3 minute rule needs to stay, though, or else the grand final would go forever. countries with selections that allow longer songs such as italy and albania need to adapt better.

Ermmm... French and English are both the official languages of the EBU.

 

[MonkeyJaw]

big 5

go through the semi like the rest of us

But UK would never qualify. And then we couldn't shit on them as much.

 

[MyHeartIsYours]

Ermmm... French and English are both the official languages of the EBU.

I would like there to be more French. In the old days (like 10 years ago) it felt as though there was a lot of French in the Contest but now it feels as though it is literally just douze points pour!

 

[Himan]

I want more Dutch in the contest!

 

[MonkeyJaw]

Ermmm... French and English are both the official languages of the EBU.

Yeah, but nobody outside of France gives a shit. Which admittedly houses 67 million people.

We need to replace that with a points system, where each delegation is allowed a certain number of points to "buy" either special effects, or more time to perform, or more people on the stage, or some steps up or down in the running order, or some bonus on the scoreboard.

This would be really interesting. At first I thought "no way, then every country would have 5 minutes songs", but then you introduced the points idea and I'm intrigued. Except that I wholly disagree with them being able to tamper with the scoreboard. That would be stupid.

The silly, pointless and outdated prohibition of audible live instruments on stage. It came about in 1999 as a way to cut down the budgets at a time interest in the contest was at a low, and technology has improved very much since as well. If they can completely change the light rig from song to song, why not allow instruments that use just one microphone or a direct connection?

yes yes yes yes YES YES yes yes yes

 

[John1]

Yeah, but nobody outside of France gives a shit. Which admittedly houses 67 million people.

You should be much more open-minded in regards to these viewers, who are keen on learning French or another language at the ESC. Nobody gives a f*** shit either about Hungarian and Albanian, though some songs have been sung in these languages over the past few years.

What's the issue here? I can't figure out your rationale here.

 

[MonkeyJaw]

I'm just telling you how it is, dude. We don't want to hear French in the competition. It's an arbitrary rule from an old, forgotten rulebook.
No one who is trying to learn French uses Eurovision as a teaching tool. Lol.

Although I want some part of it, it's not quite Eurovision unless the hosts shout out "Douze points".

 

[anto475]

I love Eurovision, but it could even better if the following things go away for good:


- producer's draw: a computer would make it more fair and exciting

- Christer Björkman: one who is obsessed with his own country's success, should produce the national final at best and nothing more to say in the actual Eurovision

- wiwibloggs: they are overly dramatic, are too personal with the acts that it becomes cringeworthy to watch, are ripping off the music for their own profit by selling t-shirts and still are entitled to completely rip an act they are cozying up with

- hosting in English: since the commentators talk over everything anyways, the hosts could as well just speak Portuguese, French or German

- the overall design and scoreboard: the layout and colour schemes are boring and depressing, I want different fonts, different colours and a fresh new scoreboard every year, that hasn't changed since 2016

- the German jury, they all vote the same, they could just have one person be the juror

- jurors who are affiliated with record labels, which have artists in the competition, equal bias and corruption

- reporting based on odds: Odds are a big thing in the UK, maybe Spain and other smaller Western European countries. They don't tell anything much about how the majority of Europe is impressed or not, and yet every hype is based on odds

- the negativity: some Eurofans only have bad things to say about most of the other countries except their own

- the 365 days until the next contest, because the wait is just too long

Hi, I hate to sound like that Finnish woman because she's annoying as hell, but Marry Me?

Also we should get rid of excessive props on the stage, the only announcing of 12 points, Nicky Byrne, the green room in the middle of the arena, and we should mandate for subtitles for every song in the language of the broadcaster.

 

[Sherlock]

I hated the Wiwibloggs-reaction-video, where this fat guy is pissed because AUT received so much jury votes. I think they are all drama-queens.

 

[Alaska49]

You should be much more open-minded in regards to these viewers, who are keen on learning French or another language at the ESC. Nobody gives a f*** shit either about Hungarian and Albanian, though some songs have been sung in these languages over the past few years.

What's the issue here? I can't figure out your rationale here.

i certainly do not want the contest to be HOSTED in hungarian, albanian or anything that isn't our current lingua franca. it has nothing to do with the sings, that i do want to have as many languages as possible. hosting in more than one language, when mostly people will understand english more easily than another language they do not speak, is just wasting program time.

 

[MyHeartIsYours]

Some changes I want...

Voting:
- Voting to be split 40% (national televotes) vs 30% (European televote) vs 30% (European jury).
- Inclusion of 9 and 11 points for the national televotes.
- All countries get points from every country's national televote, the top 3 are the only ones to get 10, 11 and 12 points, but the lower points are each shared out between multiple countries.
- European jury should be in the stadium and make their judgement based on the final performance.
- European jury votes are read out first which are given out as the televotes are now. Then the national televotes take place, spokespersons read out 10, 11 and 12 points. Then the European televotes are read out as the televotes are given out now.

Other:
- Move SF1 to Monday and SF2 to Wednesday.
- On Thursday the running order for the Grand Final should be decided, the host country/winner picks its position, then a draw between the Big 5 letting them pick their positions, then a draw between the Semi Final qualifiers letting pick their positions from the remaining places.
- Prequalifiers should perform in the Semi Finals during the voting instead of interval acts.
- Allow 10 performers on stage.
- Move the Contest to summer.

 

[mgru]

Yeah having french here n there is useless.

Having subtitles for the songs in national language is a great idea.

 

[QwaarJet]

1. Bring back the random draw, or remove the drawing of halves. This middle ground solution doesn't work.
2. Jury votes must have more rigours inspection. Albania giving their top positions to the 2 songs that just happened to have Albanian singers, and Armenia and Azerbaijan continually giving each other last place cannot be allowed to happen any more.
3. Big 5 should have to qualify from the semi-finals. If their entry is good enough to qualify, it will give them more exposure (France, Germany, Italy). If it isn't, then it won't taking a spot from a more deserving entry (UK, Spain).
4. Built-in LED screen and floor should be mandatory for each host for the foreseeable future.

 

[Chorizo]

Plus, I want to add : some years ago, the hosts had real French language lessons before the shows. I remember watching a video where the Azeri hosts learned French before the contest in Bakou.

I wonder if it's still like this, now.

This year, when telling the audience that you cannot vote for your own country, they changed "votre propre pays" to "votre pays". Another French word gone...
I wonder what prompted that change. That really surprised me because this phrase has been the same for many years.

I can understand that French speakers and also some Eurovision fans want to keep French but it really doesn't serve any practical purpose anymore. In 1956, French was more important than English in the participating countries and it remained important for a long time but today, only few people speak French while most people speak English. Those who don't speak English, usually don't speak French either. The only ones who seem to struggle with English on a regular basis are the contestants from the former USSR, who only speak their local languages and Russian. It's probably similar among the viewers. In countries like Italy, older people might speak French more often than English but for younger people things are different now. Nobody would want to go back to the days, when the hosts repeated everything they said in French anyway and even the French speak English now. I think the French broadcaster understood that insisting on speaking French when everyone else speaks English doesn't make a good impression. The French spokespersons really seem friendlier these days since they have started to mix some French and English. I think this feels much more like they are actually addressing the international audience of Eurovision instead of just announcing their points to the host.

 

[LalehForWD]

I disagree with everything said so far

 

[mauve]

I disagree with everything said so far

*lol* How creative.