The Netherlands THE NETHERLANDS 2019 - Duncan Laurence - Arcade

[Ana Raquel]

Shamanka Ilona did nothing wrong!!!!!!

 

[Ana Raquel]

and ugh i was reading the other comments on her video and the fandom is so insufferable that makes me wanna see the song flop even more. as much as i hate this song, duncan seems lovable and doesn't deserve to have these kind of fans, especially considering it's a song about love and all i saw was the opposite of it.

 

[Ana Raquel]

Sylmaron Mars
5 dias atrás
Some people still want fish & chips when being offered caviar I guess.



this one lkadlkdadsajldsajlsdjkdklas

 

[Adeline]

nobody has better music taste than anything else because at the end of the day we are all consuming a product that was sold to us. yes, sometimes people pick products you would never pick, but they are not inherently less dignified than yours lol. i say this as someone who shades the entries i don't like the entire time and do little else in this board. my opinions don't make me a better person, just a different one (and it glorifies me that i am different, thank you very much). same for this youtuber. better to have the courage to publicly go against the hype than to anonymously board it.

people are getting way too into the duncan hype for it to be healthy. out of all the top contenders in odds these last few years, he is the most tentative and fickle by far. yes, he might as well win, but it's so far from being a loreen-esque done deal that people will only harm themselves being like this. remember 2012 when pastora was 10th place (spain's best result in 8 years!!) and the spaniards still imploded because they felt entitled to even more just out of their own hype? don't let duncan become a pastora, you guys.

Agreed. Odds in this stadium of the competition are very fickle anyway. And every year there are surprises. But that is not unique to Duncan's hype now. It's the same thing with whoever is the favorite that year.
The difference with Loreen, though, is that we knew the staging already from Melodifestivalen; we knew the total package was winning material. We don't know yet what Duncan's staging will be and it's a atmospheric song that can be completely ruined by bad staging. The videoclip is perfect, but the team has to find a way to translate it to the stage. Hans Pannecoucke is present again and his track record is, well... just as fickle as the odds.

I see the current first place in the odds as a sign that the song is winning material, but there is still a lot that can happen. Up until May I try to balance this more realistic view with my excitement and enjoyment over being an early favorite for the first time. Who knows whenever that may happen again (remember NL in 2005 - 2012).

 

[LoveTw]

It's just a common thing that happens every year. I remember I said the other day that I don't like Armenia song on YouTube comment section. A fan replied and said I was a pathetic person with no taste. Even in this forum, people can still be irrational when people don't like their favorites.

 

[Mrm]

Sylmaron Mars
5 dias atrás
Some people still want fish & chips when being offered caviar I guess.



this one lkadlkdadsajldsajlsdjkdklas

But her answer on that:

Shamanka Ilona
5 days ago
Yes, not a fan of caviar So, you compare Iceland's and Portugal's songs with fish and chips?



Ilona FTW!

 

[Adeline]

and ugh i was reading the other comments on her video and the fandom is so insufferable that makes me wanna see the song flop even more. as much as i hate this song, duncan seems lovable and doesn't deserve to have these kind of fans, especially considering it's a song about love and all i saw was the opposite of it.

Actively wanting a song to flop just because of a few internet trolls under one Youtube video is quite nitpicky though. As if they represent the many more people across Europe and other countries who currently love the song. There will sadly always be idiots who think they can be mean behind the safety of a computer screen.

 

[Ana Raquel]

Actively wanting a song to flop just because of a few internet trolls under one Youtube video is quite nitpicky though. As if they represent the many more people across Europe and other countries who currently love the song. There will sadly always be idiots who think they can be mean behind the safety of a computer screen.

i actually want it to flop (as: not win) because i hate it lmao but let's say the fandom just intensified my wish. poor people who have to face these kind of comments every day, i admire them.

 

[DenizESC]

I really can't stand the song either :/ and it just keeps getting worse to me with each listen XD but ofc I respect everyone elses opinion.

Except when people were shading Sieneke, I definitely still have an account... Somewhere... where I told every Sieneke hater their entire existence is worthless to humanity but I had my age as excuse back then + Sieneke is queen so don't come for me!

Btw I put 'no offense' after each hate speech so I also have that.

 

[Adeline]

i actually want it to flop (as: not win) because i hate it lmao but let's say the fandom just intensified my wish. poor people who have to face these kind of comments every day, i admire them.

Wanting something to flop because you hate the song is something different of course

I just wanted to clarify that this Youtube video is just one out of hundreds on the internet dealing with ESC, and a few trolls in the comment section are not representative for "the fandom" or the people who like this song.

And for every ESC entry there are idiotic fans who can't stand it whenever someone disagrees with their opinion. That is not unique to ESC fans who like Duncan's song.

 

[Leydan]

Eurovision fans telling other Eurovision fans they've got bad taste? TrollToTheLOLOLOL. There is so much ugliness in the comments box of that video that it makes me feel ashamed to be a Eurovision fan. The irony of attacking someone's taste (their opinion) and then fawning over 3 minutes of heavily calculated woah oh oh indie pop made especially to titillate the masses. A special kind of people who like to tell themselves they're listening to something deep, something weighty, and how that somehow puts their basic-bitch backsides above anyone that doesn't share their high-caliber taste. What a tragedy.

Like what your heart tells you to like, but the cringe levels are high when you start declaring yourself superior. Arcade is not my bag at all, but at the moment I at least tolerate its existence. Going to be hard though with so many unbearable wannabes (hopefully children so that we can forgive their naive souls) hovering around it.

Perfect description of this entry. You see, everyone is entitled to their own opinion... BUT only if you agree with everyone else. Otherwise you get sded. The amount of top 41 videos etc that huge dislikes because that person ranked a fan fave lower down and not 1. I remember clearly when 'Walk Along' was announced for the Netherlands in 2015, and I immediately knew it was a flop in the making, but everyone butchered me for suggesting it. Also wiwibloggs did an entire article attacking the writer of Sienekes song for saying Walk Along was meh and would flop (later retracting it afaik). As we turned out, the entire thing was a huge mess and we were right all along. I agree with this woman who goes getting hate posts; it's boring. I don't pretend to be someone who loves deep meaningful music, I'd much rather listen to something fun, but enough of the fandom would decide a lump of coal would be emitting huge levels of emotion, deep meaning and innovation to music if they decided to hype it. It's like a knee-jerk reaction to entries now. fun, no real level of 'depth' to the lyrical content = fastfood, basique, Fuego copy, Something that is still very mainstream but isn't directly pop music = song of songs, deeper than Lake Baikal, Vinner ov ze Ewurovizyon. I honestly find many sections of the fandom toxic, and try to actively avoid it. I think we're lucky here to have quite a level headed forum (although I admit there are few people here also who irritate me to no end).

Yes, which is precisely why people are unbearable idiots. Christ, if I made a video reaction (don't give me ideas brain) it would be an absolute tonne fricking worse than that, and more would be said than just "it's boring". I'd go deeper. This lady did indeed even say it could grow on her after watching the performance. Youtube is a cesspool. That's why I never comment there and use it strictly for watching stuff.

Please do it. Drag it.

 

[ijsbeer]

i actually want it to flop (as: not win) because i hate it lmao but let's say the fandom just intensified my wish. poor people who have to face these kind of comments every day, i admire them.

Geez. You're quite strong in your opinions aren't you? Hate? Really?. Seams so hyperbolic to me for saying you just don't like something.

 

[Antho]

i actually want it to flop (as: not win) because i hate it lmao but let's say the fandom just intensified my wish. poor people who have to face these kind of comments every day, i admire them.

That's completely stupid, you're not being smarter than these people by saying that. That you don't like this entry is a fact and I respect it, but you can't wish it flops because the fandom is being atrocious with some people (adding that you're not being really kind either)

 

[DenizESC]

She literally said there it was not just because of that but it just intensified it. Read first, drag after pls.
NEXT

 

[DenizESC]

[MENTION=15999]Antho[/MENTION] ahahaha im dead! U edited your post after you saw mine.
Forreal next now, this is just a joke.

Btw before telling people they're being idiotic learn how to use that word correctly. Or edit it now

 

[Preuss]

I think this will struggle..................................... to not be a serious contender for the win unless they mess up the staging

 

[ijsbeer]

Well back to Duncan I guess? What kind of staging you guys feel would be fitting?

 

[Ana Raquel]

Geez. You're quite strong in your opinions aren't you? Hate? Really?. Seams so hyperbolic to me for saying you just don't like something.

I actually hate it lmao it's not dislike

That's completely idiot, you're not being smarter than these people by saying that. That you don't like this entry is a fact and I respect it, but you can't wish it flops because the fandom is being atrocious with some people (adding that you're not being really kind either)

wanting a song i hate not to win a contest is the same thing of calling people with opposite opinions as mine "boring tasteless with no knowledge of real music and shouldn't exist"

yeah of course the same but go off i guess

 

[Ana Raquel]

She literally said there it was not just because of that but it just intensified it. Read first, drag after pls.
NEXT

i ran over three arcade fans today thanks good xafroxwheelxballonxsponge1

 

[MaryAnny]

Reading all the last posts make me sad... Please don't think that a minority of people are representive for all the Dutch fans of this song.

For me it's since 2003 I really like an entry from my own country from the first time I heared it. (Sadly the staging was all wrong in 2003, and maybe my taste too ) I'm just so glad that Arcade is doing well!