Sweden SWEDEN 2019 - John Lundvik - Too Late for Love
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Because Loreen was faaaaaaaaar better than Cascada!
Ezio
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I listened to Glorious just today and thought, what a tacky attempt to reproduce Loreen's success.
John Lundvik is not tacky, but there is lot of inspiration from Cesar and I am not sure, the jury is sold on the concept twice in a row. Well, it's more uplifting and catchy, but also simpler and more schlager.
LalehForWD
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And so is Cesar compared to John.
VascoRom99
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Amen to that
I find it very ironic that many in here (not exactly you Ezio) now uses Cesar as bat for bashing us this year, maybe it´s time for many in here to look back in the thread for the results last year directly after the final was over, (98% of all comments written in 24h after the final was over were everything but nice) - http://escunited.com/forum/threads/17529-YEARLY-JURY-HATE-THREAD
That´s is why I wrote in another thread in here that ESC-fans in general are very predictable and having large double standards (which proved to be a very sensitive thing mentioning it)
But, the most interesting part when it comes to our song this year is not the jury voting part (very likely that he will be top 5 with the juries) it´s rather the televoting part that will be interesting, because the main difference between Cesar and John (despite having different kind of songs) is that John is playing more on a happy feeling during his performance, something Cesar didn´t really do. That will be the most exciting thing for me, will that huge charisma he shows on stage together with "the Mamas" blow away audience across Europe? Maybe, maybe not
I can´t recall the latest time when our song got so much viewers on the official video uploaded on the official ESC-channel on YT in so short time (Måns 2015 maybe) that was clearly not the case either with Robin or Benjamin when their videos were uploaded after the wins in MF 2017 and 2018
I liked Cesar last (was my top 10) year but John is perfect this year!
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You are assuming the viewers on the official channel are mainly non swedish, I highly doubt that.
As far as I can tell John has 3 videos on youtube with about 2.5 million views at the moment. I have written down 5.4 million views overall for Benjamin on 26th of April 2018. I assume John is going to beat this, but it does not seem the difference is going to be that huge.
Someone made a ranking for 2017, the date is 16th March: https://www.reddit.com/r/eurovision/comments/5zrf5e/eurovision_2017_entries_by_number_of_views_on/
It seems Robin was slightly ahead of John at this time of the season.
Personally I don't believe those views pre-rehearsals are telling us a lot. When I look at the top 10 youtube views for 2018, only Israel, Italy (which is ALWAYS extremely high in views) and Czech Republic were in the top 10 televote.
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And why exactly? Different time, different judges, different tastes.
I was more thinking that our song is not that hated this year like the latest two were,
BorisBubbles
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It's definitely that. I haven't seen too many people slam "Too Late For Love". Having a likable person with a likable song as your rep helps.
I must say that I've thought about the scenario if Luca represented Sweden with "She Got Me"
We all know what every fan would have said:
"generic popsong"
"so overrated"
"Sweden always send same song over and over again"
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well, to be fair, most internal selections that are loved would get resentment from the same people had they won an NF instead. this year more than ever it's visible how NF bitterness gets ahold of people. "INTERNAL SELECTIONS SAVED THIS YEAR" my ass lol.
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I can't believe you guys are actually using a victim card.
In the last 10 years, only twice was your song underrated (2016 - underrated by fans, deserving result, 2010 - ok with fans, undeserving result). 2012 and 2014 got appropriate appreciation and result, 2015 overachieved somewhat (it wasn't the best that year) but more or less a fair result. The other five years, you guys got overrated AF.
And a lot of times, you do send a generic pop song, and do better with them than most other countries would. If you had Belarus' song this year, it'd be getting raves for being a "perfect pop song", but since it's Belarus, it probably won't even qualify.
We have heard the exact same thing since 2015, it´s simple fact. I have never said that the
song is bad, but I can gurantee that those comments would have been made by at least 85% of everyone writing in here had it represented us
Alaska49
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iceland has passed sweden in some odds markets. sweden is slowly but surely drifting more and more. memba i told you sending john was a risk out of similarity to other contenders. sweden will need to at least change his staging to shift the narrative in their favour.
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70% ppl will see it for the first time in TA on television..so it is not that importnt.
Plus jury will appreciate it just like they did in MF final..
If SWI ends higher than SWE with these vocals ESC is officially DEAD and those "professionals" ! :?
