Sweden SWEDEN 2019 - John Lundvik - Too Late for Love

[LalehForWD]

[MENTION=14118]LesterMalvo[/MENTION], please rethink your perception of the matter in question. Just getting the idea of corruption when it comes to events like Melodifestivalen and Eurovision says more about you and your background than it brings real concerns. As it does for everyone else who keep dragging these type of suggestions up in esc. Few things in Sweden are as shameful as being caught taking bribes or cheating in any way with money. Not that it doesn't happen in Sweden, it just takes a whole different level of seriousness in the kind of business and some real money to be worth the risk. Getting caught means you are definitely finished for the rest of your professional life. I think it's pretty much the same in the whole of western Europe.

Consider this for example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index

 

[A-lister]

It is irrelevant if I don't like the outcome. I just think all the juries giving one particular song their 12s in a year which companies like Netflix persistently use minorities, black people majorly, seems rather too coincidential. I wonder about the impressions that other people have, considering how hard Sweden tries to get what is the best.

Really!? You're not serious right? I mean SVT is one big PC madhouse, but nah... this sounds very conspiracy to me even... I mean I think the fact of the matter that John was the only one with a good enough entry to represent us in Eurovision (I already knew they would downvote JHF unfortunately) so what other options did they have? The rest were mediocre as best but mostly pretty crap wheres John had like the only good song and a good performance and vocal delivery to go with it?

 

[Mainshow]

pts for this year's potential winning entry.
John's really selling this song. It's catchy, uplifting and definitely very competitive.

 

[Stargazer]

The more I listen to the song, the more it grows on me. I liked it before, but I'm really loving it now. It's just so infectious and joyful. My only complaint is that the ESC three minute rule hurts the song a bit. I would have liked one more extra round of chorus at the end when we get to that glorious key change. Right now it feels like it ends before I'm able to enjoy the best part of the song long enough. But that's my only complaint.

I changed my vote from an 8 to a 12.

 

[r3gg13]

This is one of those songs that are so much better live than in recording. The backing vocalists bring this song to life, also John Lundvik is the very definition of stage presence. I feel him. He also did an excellent key-change from minor to major. It really sets the drama for this song. I love it.

 

[Milos-BC]

I usually like songs like this but this one.....doesn't do much for me sadly It's not bad, but I just have no inspiration to play it again. I have no doubts that it will end in top10 though. Both juries and televoters will love it.


4 points.

 

[Ezio]

Is it too late for love?
For Sweden?
No.

 

[Haverdge]

How does this song have eighteen 0 scores?

What is wrong with people?!

 

[Ezio]

Blame it on Christer Björkman [MENTION=8611]Haverdge[/MENTION]

Everyone hates Sweden because of H.I.M.

 

[Citelis]

I do believe too that some of those 0s are because people don't like Sweden and not for the song itself! And yes i know that not everyone likes it but giving 0 means you find a song extremely terrible!

 

[Etanna]

Well, I for instance find the song extremely dull and dated and it has nothing to do with "hating Sweden" (or Björkman). I gave it 1 only because he seems to be genuinely happy when performing it. I don't understand why people think it's a potential winner (but I completely respect their opinion of course).

 

[Lonter]

I do believe too that some of those 0s are because people don't like Sweden and not for the song itself! And yes i know that not everyone likes it but giving 0 means you find a song extremely terrible!

Well, that's silly. For like, a lot of motives.

 

[xDEWx]

For me this is the weakest Swedish entry since Robin Stjernberg 'You'. I expect similar result in May tbh

 

[hijirio]

After all the jury hype for this in the MF, it doesn't seem to be doing so well in youtube tops, the poll on this thread and the ranking game.

Are the juries superior beings that are able to see what we can't see or sth?

 

[LalehForWD]

Well, that's silly. For like, a lot of motives.

What is silly and what motives would that be? xwhatxwhat

 

[Lonter]

What is silly and what motives would that be? xwhatxwhat

First the whole victim act. Then, thinking some people won't actually consider the song "extremely terrible". Then assuming everybody actually votes from 12 to 0 in the same way one does and that thoes number mean the same things for them. Then the whole thing about trying to rationalize and find excuses for a set of votes that differs from your own. Then pretty much the whole post as a whole.

 

[QwaarJet]

After all the jury hype for this in the MF, it doesn't seem to be doing so well in youtube tops, the poll on this thread and the ranking game.

Are the juries superior beings that are able to see what we can't see or sth?

The first 3 you mentioned are just ESC fans deciding those rankings. It doesn't really tell at all how the general public will feel about it. All we have is the Swedish public, who loved it.

 

[Citelis]

First the whole victim act. Then, thinking some people won't actually consider the song "extremely terrible". Then assuming everybody actually votes from 12 to 0 in the same way one does and that thoes number mean the same things for them. Then the whole thing about trying to rationalize and find excuses for a set of votes that differs from your own. Then pretty much the whole post as a whole.

You believe it or not there are people that don't like Sweden and that affects their voting in the poll! That's what i said!

 

[LalehForWD]

First the whole victim act. Then, thinking some people won't actually consider the song "extremely terrible". Then assuming everybody actually votes from 12 to 0 in the same way one does and that thoes number mean the same things for them. Then the whole thing about trying to rationalize and find excuses for a set of votes that differs from your own. Then pretty much the whole post as a whole.

Then why not say that instead of some vague sarcastic mumble? Furthermore, quite a rant considering this is your first comment in what is it - say about 4 years? It's not like you participate actively in the debate in any way. Which is also perhaps the reason you completely misunderstood the issue and perhaps the fact you're very likely part of the problem. The right to judge is better earned than just taken - if ever. No one denies you the right to think a song is "extremely terrible" and I think I can promise you no one never will. Why anyone should care what you think is another matter. Finally, I can't help to think sorry for you if your engagement in esc leads to a first comment like this. Shape up ffs

 

[Lonter]

Then why not say that instead of some vague sarcastic mumble? Furthermore, quite a rant considering this is your first comment in what is it - say about 4 years? It's not like you participate actively in the debate in any way. Which is also perhaps the reason you completely misunderstood the issue and perhaps the fact you're very likely part of the problem. The right to judge is better earned than just taken - if ever. No one denies you the right to think a song is "extremely terrible" and I think I can promise you no one never will. Why anyone should care what you think is another matter. Finally, I can't help to think sorry for you if your engagement in esc leads to a first comment like this. Shape up ffs

Well, that's a mess, and for various motives