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Sweden SWEDEN 2016 - Frans - If I Were Sorry

How do you rate the entry?

  • 12

    45 15.9%
  • 10

    14 4.9%
  • 8

    25 8.8%
  • 7

    18 6.4%
  • 6

    19 6.7%
  • 5

    24 8.5%
  • 4

    14 4.9%
  • 3

    21 7.4%
  • 2

    11 3.9%
  • 1

    14 4.9%
  • 0

    78 27.6%

  • Total voters
    283

Dante

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I closed the stream after seeing the jury's votes. I thought Sweden might save this bad year. It won't do terrific, but I expect a top 10. For me, it was one of the weakest entries.
 

Vera

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I'm hoping that your public admission of the fact that you don't vote objectively is shameful enough. It would be for decent people.

Oh, it's objective!!!Even Greece is a masterpiece for this, this...song????And I gave them 2 points. So you can not say that someone is being indecent just because he
voted differently.xdown
 

LalehForWD

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I wasn't a fan of Frasse (no gosh he's not a Frasse :lol:) and I'm not going to become one either. For me it's not like it was about Saade 2011 whom I just couldn't stand. As I said before, I'm pretty indifferent to him as an artist and there is nothing in the song that excites me. However as a Swede I like how he slays on Spotify and perhaps sending hype waves across Europe. I'm not sure I want him to win ESC though. Since both the obvious winning candidates Margaret and The Hardkiss are out, the winner is very much an open question. If we had picked Ace last night everything would have been so much easier.
 

sapsan

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It's a shame - the worst entry were chosen. I almost hate it now. It deserve to be in the bottom of the Final with 0 pts. :mad: It's a shock with some incredible entries - (Ace Wilder, Lisa Ajax or even Molly Sanden and Dolly Style) of MF to choose this cr*p. BIG ZERO for this. Sweden could get my 12 pts with Lisa Ajax, 10 with Dolly Style, 6pts with Ace Wilder...but they won't... :? WTF...
 

JamieBrown

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I would've preferred something like this I think :lol:
 

cripesdude

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It's not my favourite entry this year at all but far from the worst. I don't mind it... 5/6 points, with a possibility to grow on me? I think it might do better than many people
expect, however, it seems a Swedish double-win is unlikely.
 

Stiven

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Well for me this is similar to Hungary 2013 the ESC Bubble hates it people outside it like it.
And luckily the Bubble doesn't represent the majority of viewers and voters (Thank God) so I expect him to do good since the song has a good outside bubble appeal that until recently many ESC songs lacked.
And since I liked Hungary 2013 it's no surprise that I also like this it's not my favourite (that title goes to Croatia) but it does have a simple down to earth atmosphere which we need more at ESC.
 

FilipFromSweden

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My first thought waking up: we f*cked up big time :lol:
 

tararaaam

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Such a bad song...Sweden we got it, you don't want to win again. But you don't have to send this horrible mess.
 

julien4ESC

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Definitely a very modern song that sounds like a big hit. I can see Sweden winning again easily.
 

FilipFromSweden

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With the new app rules it's mostly the international jurys choice anyway. Unless we want it that way maybe we need to change to a total number of app votes on all the songs and not just for each.

I don't think the app is the problem, it's just an app to vote with for the people, it's up to the people how to use it. The app is a success and it ain't going nowhere.
 

cegs5

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When watching the Eurovision on TV or live you may get the impression that Eurovision fans are very open-minded, loving and happy people. In here though, you will realize that they are just about as hateful, disrespectful, trash-talking and full of shit as everyone else seems to be these days. Not only is the song worth bringing all the worst in people, now the 17-year old singer is apparently an asshole too. Just... wow!

This! xclap

While I'm not a fan of the song, I wouldn't spread so much shit about a guy I don't know or an entire country as I have read comments here... And then this is the kind of people who try to be a role model of tolerance and love.
 

Tjipptjopp

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I don't think the app is the problem, it's just an app to vote with for the people, it's up to the people how to use it. The app is a success and it ain't going nowhere.

No, I love the app and I want it to stay. I may also like that the juries have most of the power. However it is highly possible that the current limitation of 5 free votes per song makes the public vote more even counting % of total and that makes the announcing of the televotes up until last two quite boring. This year had probably relatively even songs though. 14% for the winner is however low considering the polls before and the fact that more than 50% thought the right song won at expressen.
 

Tjipptjopp

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Considering the jury score we can now expect maybe around 4th place after the jury points in esc. Måns and Loreen got to nr 1 with 114 and 122p in mello. Robin and Sanna got 3rd place with scores of 91 and 90. Saade got only 81p and only placed 9th with the juries in esc. Frans got 88 points but with 12 songs in the final which should mean a 4th place. If anyone is doubting this I can just say don't be such a hater. This is 100% reliable, as there is actual proof to this as you can see. :)
 

tsegaye

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Considering the jury score we can now expect maybe around 4th place after the jury points in esc. Måns and Loreen got to nr 1 with 114 and 122p in mello. Robin and Sanna got 3rd place with scores of 91 and 90. Saade got only 81p and only placed 9th with the juries in esc. Frans got 88 points but with 12 songs in the final which should mean a 4th place. If anyone is doubting this I can just say don't be such a hater. This is 100% reliable, as there is actual proof to this as you can see. :)

I see your point, but every year is a new year with new songs so everything is relative. But yeah somewhere in top 10 is reasonable! :)
 

rubikscube

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Considering the jury score we can now expect maybe around 4th place after the jury points in esc. Måns and Loreen got to nr 1 with 114 and 122p in mello. Robin and Sanna got 3rd place with scores of 91 and 90. Saade got only 81p and only placed 9th with the juries in esc. Frans got 88 points but with 12 songs in the final which should mean a 4th place. If anyone is doubting this I can just say don't be such a hater. This is 100% reliable, as there is actual proof to this as you can see. :)

There are a lot of other factors, but it's a nice analysis ;)
 
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