Russia RUSSIA 2016 - Sergey Lazarev - You Are The Only One

[Sammy]

Last year the televoting difference between Italy and Russia was the biggest ever and the winner came 3rd in televoting. This year, the difference was rather small between Russia and Ukraine.

good point.

 

[Carian]

You just won audience's reward. I don't see anything related to withdraw here.

Actually I do see his point, cuz today juries OBVIOUSLY ganged up against Russia. The same type of music last year won the juries votes, but not televotes, yet this year better singing and staging was judged 5th by the juries, yet people thought (not only in the Eastern block) that Sergey is a worth winner. So... Do you really think they have no reason to be upset? If your entry is always second and third because they are from RUSSIA, then, yeah, I would quit the game too. But if it were up to me, I really hope they come back stronger next year.

 

[Carian]

Absolutely not.

Send something original ffs. Russian is fantastic in songs, use it.
Forget this plastic music, go for something new.

Are you making a bad joke? Last year, every one here was moaning how hypocritical Russia was for sending a PEACE song. Also UNORIGINAL. This year, you got a love song, but it was supposedly according to your opinion an UNORIGINAL ACT! Well, tell me which one was original? And tell me exactly what Russia should send next year, cuz I really dont understand all these demans form some ESC fans here....

 

[Dessi]

She used the word face-time. Which can be interpreted as a brand. (cf Facebook in San Marino's song)

Oh my good are you serious???
So, if anyone (like Ukraine) is saying to the whole Eastern Europe not vote for Russia, it isn't anything at all..like political message it's like alright????........ BUT if an other country (like non Eastern country) is using a word like "face-time", well in this forum it's like For-Ever-Abantion.... :? Jesus, THIS really is bullshit multiplied like in hundreds of square foot!!! :twisted:

 

[hjs]

both won the televote. that's just how it is... There is no "credibility"-issue here.

I disagree. We all know that Russia profits (like some others) from diaspora voting. Italy doesn't. Really surprised that it's no difference for you.

 

[Sammy]

Oh my good are you serious???
So, if anyone (like Ukraine) is saying to the whole Eastern Europe to not vote for Russia, it isn't anything at all..like, .political messages is alright........ BUT if an other country is using a word like "face-time", well in this forum it's like For-Ever-Abantion.... :? Jesus, THIS really is bullshit multiplied like in hundreds of square foot!!! :twisted:

I just explained to you what I thought the "rule braking"-post was about. I was giving no opinion.

 

[CaspianMortis]

diaspora voting

This, this and the new points system will allow Russia, Ukraine and Poland (probably other Slavic countries too) to dominate the contest and overshadow all others for another bazillion years.

 

[LakZaNokte]

Are you making a bad joke? Last year, every one here was moaning how hypocritical Russia was for sending a PEACE song. Also UNORIGINAL. This year, you got a love song, but it was supposedly according to your opinion an UNORIGINAL ACT! Well, tell me which one was original? And tell me exactly what Russia should send next year, cuz I really dont understand all these demans form some ESC fans here....

Nothing inovative, nothing new to battleground. Only 2 great performers wasted on cliche songs.

I don't have to point out anything, look at the song that won tonight.

 

[Sammy]

I disagree. We all know that Russia profits (like some others) from diaspora voting. Italy doesn't. Really surprised that it's no difference for you.

Well it would be rather neighbor/block voting than diaspora in the case of Russia.
I haven't really had a close look on the televote results. But you don't win the televote only by diaspora or neighbor voting.
btw Italy has quite a diaspora in countries like Austria or Germany. But that's getting off topic I think.

 

[Carian]

This, this and the new points system will allow Russia, Ukraine and Poland (probably other Slavic countries too) to dominate the contest and overshadow all others for another bazillion years.

Oh yes, also the sodomized ex-Yugoslavian block voting worked so well this year... Both Serbia and Croatia barely made it to the finals, and both miserably ended on the right side of the screen. SO, what were saying about block-voting?

 

[Dessi]

I just explained to you what I thought the "rule braking"-post was. I was giving no opinion.

So, what you're saying is "I have no clue"???? OK, I will stop arguing with you.

 

[Dessi]

Oh yes, also the sodomized ex-Yugoslavian block voting worked so well this year... Both Serbia and Croatia barely made it to the finals, and both miserably ended on the right side of the screen. SO, what were saying about block-voting?

Everyone was voting for Ukraine??? :?

 

[Sammy]

So, what you're saying is "I have no clue"???? OK, I will stop arguing with you.

I wasn't arguing with you. You asked a question, I gave an answer. Don't get mad.

 

[bstream]

Despite the political tensions between Russia and Western Europe, Russia has managed something like top 5 In 4 out of the last 5 contests and top 10 five times in a row. They are succeeding at making their rivals forget. They must be doing something right.

 

[Carian]

Nothing inovative, nothing new to battleground. Only 2 great performers wasted on cliche songs.

I don't have to point out anything, look at the song that won tonight.

Oh, if you think this is original, let me say only: obviously you dont go to burrial ceremonies where quite a few amateur singers sing this sort of song, moaning and bewailing the dead people... So, I really dont understand abouth what originality are you talking... YOu know, if she can moan better than the common village women usually do here where I live, it doesnt mean that she invented the genre...

 

[CaspianMortis]

Oh yes, also the sodomized ex-Yugoslavian block voting worked so well this year... Both Serbia and Croatia barely made it to the finals, and both miserably ended on the right side of the screen. SO, what were saying about block-voting?

Not so much Serbian and Croatian people in Europe. But there are many Slavs from Ukraine, Poland and Russia. They probably vote for their homeland just because it's their homeland. Poland got nearly no points from the jury and Russia did quite well (but was not the winner).
The new points system is probably to blame.

 

[Carian]

Everyone was voting for Ukraine??? :?

Yes, our "independent, professional" jury from Slovenia gave 12 points to Ukraine, and 0 to Sergey. However, our televoters gave 10 points to Sergey (12 points to Serbia). But forget these 12 points cuz the Serbian minority here voted this song, so basically it means that Sergey won the Slovenian televoting.

 

[LakZaNokte]

Oh, if you think this is original, let me say only: obviously you dont go to burrial ceremonies where quite a few amateur singers sing this sort of song, moaning and bewailing the dead people... So, I really dont understand abouth what originality are you talking... YOu know, if she can moan better than the common village women usually do here where I live, it doesnt mean that she invented the genre...

But they brought it to ESC in the right way at the right time. Obviously.

And that's the entire point and secret of ESC. Risk.

 

[hjs]

Well it would be rather neighbor/block voting than diaspora in the case of Russia.
I haven't really had a close look on the televote results. But you don't win the televote only by diaspora or neighbor voting.
btw Italy has quite a diaspora in countries like Austria or Germany. But that's getting off topic I think.

No you are right it's probably more block voting. But the thing is (maybe I'm unfair here) that Russia starts every year with at least 100 points thanks to block voting. So I always take that into account when they win the televote. Btw I wouldn't have had a problem with Russia winning it this year because it was a OK song with Great presentation.

 

[Carian]

But they brought it to ESC in the right way at the right time. Obviously.

And that's the entire point and secret of ESC. Risk.

No no, this was a political song wraped up in a dirge. So, there is nothing original, cuz Ukraine did this already with Verka Serduchka.

I cannot imagine what would have happened if Russia had sent a song about Nazi invasion in 1941 to Russia, since they are not even allowed to sing about peace...