Poland POLAND 2014 - Donatan & Cleo - My Słowianie
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TVP being brave? Nah... never
The rumors about Edyta are probably true and it's probably not just a coincidence that TVP decided to mark their comeback celebrating their debut 20 years ago (with Edyta which gave them their best position to date). Unfortunately, they're probably aiming at making something "To Nie Ja"-like. I like that entry, but something more interesting would be welcomed plus Edyta don't have the vocals for it any longer.
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TVP being brave? Nah... never
The rumors about Edyta are probably true and it's probably not just a coincidence that TVP decided to mark their comeback celebrating their debut 20 years ago (with Edyta which gave them their best position to date). Unfortunately, they're probably aiming at making something "To Nie Ja"-like. I like that entry, but something more interesting would be welcomed plus Edyta don't have the vocals for it any longer.
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Edyta and local elements? Really? It's a surprising wish, because I've been always thinking that her voice doesn't suit songs with the so-called local elements. My option for her is a ballad too, but a more dynamic one.
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With locals I don't really mean "ethno" though, but like that Christmas Carol for instance, that sounds very "local".
What do you mean with "dynamic"?
With locals I don't really mean "ethno" though, but like that Christmas Carol for instance, that sounds very "local".
What do you mean with "dynamic"?
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Oh please stop saying this. The more we think about that, the more it'll come true!
I want to believe we'll have something like the Christmas carol instead too.
Enough cheese, (I hope) Polska is ready to amaze us
By the way, I agree, judges on TV (idol, the voice, x-factor, whatever) are always hasbeens
I don't know what to think about Edyta participating again. If that's true, I just hope that TVP won't rely on her name only, the song needs to be really good for their return. Because they could do like Austria 2011 and qualify with a mediocre generic song after years of absence, but that would be such a shame.
I didn't :/
I did write that I don't want something screamy/waily though, and I could write it 10 times more
Oh please stop saying this.
The more we think about that, the more it'll come true!I want to believe we'll have something like the Christmas carol instead too.
Enough cheese, (I hope) Polska is ready to amaze us
By the way, I agree, judges on TV (idol, the voice, x-factor, whatever) are always hasbeens
I don't know what to think about Edyta participating again. If that's true, I just hope that TVP won't rely on her name only, the song needs to be really good for their return. Because they could do like Austria 2011 and qualify with a mediocre generic song after years of absence, but that would be such a shame.
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Man, are you crazy? Why are you showing this **** to Europe? Do you want to bring shame on us?
It's completely incomprehensible, I don't even know if it's in Polish or English.
Nooo
Man, are you crazy? Why are you showing this **** to Europe? Do you want to bring shame on us?
It's completely incomprehensible, I don't even know if it's in Polish or English.
Nooo
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C'mon, it's a joke. Let's not be so serious all the time, it's music - it's fun! Everyone can laugh
Man, are you crazy? Why are you showing this **** to Europe? Do you want to bring shame on us?
It's completely incomprehensible, I don't even know if it's in Polish or English.
Nooo
C'mon, it's a joke. Let's not be so serious all the time, it's music - it's fun! Everyone can laugh
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this is not singing, this is screaming. Can't stand her yelling all the time :?
Meh
this is not singing, this is screaming. Can't stand her yelling all the time :?
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If it's screaming/yelling...well....
If it's screaming/yelling...well....
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I don't really see any problems with that performance. A male performer may have done similar with that song and nobody would be saying he's yelling/screaming they would say "look at the emotion, look how he feels the song." But because Edyta is female its just yelling/screaming :roll:. There seems to be double standard when it comes to male/female singes and certain types of songs.
I think a performance similar to that would be able to get 6-10 finish in the final. A jury would vote for that and some of the televoters would too
I don't really see any problems with that performance
. A male performer may have done similar with that song and nobody would be saying he's yelling/screaming they would say "look at the emotion, look how he feels the song." But because Edyta is female its just yelling/screaming :roll:. There seems to be double standard when it comes to male/female singes and certain types of songs. I think a performance similar to that would be able to get 6-10 finish in the final. A jury would vote for that and some of the televoters would too
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Well, she has to be confirmed first
But She will have some ballad like 'Nie zapomnij' or 'Obudźcie się' or something up-tempo like 'Consequences'.
Well, she has to be confirmed first
But She will have some ballad like 'Nie zapomnij' or 'Obudźcie się' or something up-tempo like 'Consequences'.
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I'm almost sure if it's a ballad without ethnical elements you'll just call it cheesy
I'm almost sure if it's a ballad without ethnical elements you'll just call it cheesy
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Then you don't know me for sure For instance I was a fan of Shiri Maimon's ballad back in 2005, and that had no ethnic elements
Though, if it's in a similar style that we got from Russia and Georgia last year, then it's gonna be cheesy and awful deluxe for sure
"To Nie Ja" is borderline, it worked back in early 90's which was also an era of big ballads internationally (Whitney and Mariah comes to mind), so at that time it felt contemporary and it wasn't really cheesy, maybe a bit too Americanized though. However, if they try to make a "To Nie Ja v.2" for the 10's then I'm afraid it could turn out relic-y and clichéd. Those "big vocal ballads" are pretty much hit-or-miss for me, some are pretty decent (like Spain 2012), while some have been just dreadful (like Netherlands 2005). I prefer more subtle ballads usually, that type of American-Idol-ish wailing is usually just painful for the ears and lack a genuine feeling. A good ballad speaks to the soul, someone just wailing for 3 minutes without any depth or a nice melody is just waste of time and space. Interestingly, ballads almost always works better in native languages for me in ESC (regardless of their style), and I guess it has got partly to do with that they come across as more genuine when sung in the language closest to the singer's heart.
Then you don't know me for sure
For instance I was a fan of Shiri Maimon's ballad back in 2005, and that had no ethnic elements Though, if it's in a similar style that we got from Russia and Georgia last year, then it's gonna be cheesy and awful deluxe for sure
"To Nie Ja" is borderline, it worked back in early 90's which was also an era of big ballads internationally (Whitney and Mariah comes to mind), so at that time it felt contemporary and it wasn't really cheesy, maybe a bit too Americanized though. However, if they try to make a "To Nie Ja v.2" for the 10's then I'm afraid it could turn out relic-y and clichéd. Those "big vocal ballads" are pretty much hit-or-miss for me, some are pretty decent (like Spain 2012), while some have been just dreadful (like Netherlands 2005). I prefer more subtle ballads usually, that type of American-Idol-ish wailing is usually just painful for the ears and lack a genuine feeling. A good ballad speaks to the soul, someone just wailing for 3 minutes without any depth or a nice melody is just waste of time and space. Interestingly, ballads almost always works better in native languages for me in ESC (regardless of their style), and I guess it has got partly to do with that they come across as more genuine when sung in the language closest to the singer's heart.
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Edyta wrote on her Facebook in English (it's of course about ESC, there are also 4 photos from her '94 performance):
2O years have passed and I still remember every detail.
This was Extreme Experience.
For me it was a power of fear, responsibility & expectations.
But mostly - it was power of LOVE
Hmm... is this supposed to be a clue for us? I hope so
Edyta wrote on her Facebook in English (it's of course about ESC, there are also 4 photos from her '94 performance):
2O years have passed and I still remember every detail.
This was Extreme Experience.
For me it was a power of fear, responsibility & expectations.
But mostly - it was power of LOVE
Hmm... is this supposed to be a clue for us? I hope so