Luxembourg LUXEMBOURG 2024 - Tali - Fighter

[ESC United Mod Team]

 

[0scar]

Benelux isn't going to be a voting bloc I don't even think Dutch and Luxembourgish peeps feel like they culturally speaking have anything in common, it's just three small countries surrounded by giants.
And even the Netherlands and Belgium are only lenient towards each other if you count just half of Belgium.

I guess Luxembourg-France will be some sort of thing??

 

[goncalovieira]

15% of their population has Portuguese roots.
We are taking the 12 points every single year.
If that happens with Switzerland and France very often, imagine Luxembourg.

 

[aeon]

15% of their population has Portuguese roots.
We are taking the 12 points every single year.
If that happens with Switzerland and France very often, imagine Luxembourg.

That's why we need instructions from EBU to broadcasters to appeal frequently to voters to vote for quality of song and not love for country or other reasons. It will not eliminate diaspora vote but could lessen it.

 

[DanielLuis]

That's why we need instructions from EBU to broadcasters to appeal frequently to voters to vote for quality of song and not love for country or other reasons. It will not eliminate diaspora vote but could lessen it.

I think the introduction of juries has been very good in making diaspora voting decrease over the years. If you look at televoting results pre-2009 and televoting results nowadays the effect of these sort of things is much much weaker.

 

[shameless]

Benelux isn't going to be a voting bloc I don't even think Dutch and Luxembourgish peeps feel like they culturally speaking have anything in common, it's just three small countries surrounded by giants.
And even the Netherlands and Belgium are only lenient towards each other if you count just half of Belgium.

I guess Luxembourg-France will be some sort of thing??

We don't know if new-age-Luxembourg will go the same route as old-school-Luxembourg (e.g. always sending french songs). To me it looks like they're really ambitious now and it would surprise me, if they want to milk on the recent success of Voilá or Tout l’univers - because what other french song was successful in ESC these days?). I don't think singing in french has benefitted (or italian for that matter) Switzerland in the recent past anyway. They are basically Belgium2.0 meaning that entries from different parts of the country address a different target group. It also seems that Diaspora is more working for the country people migrated from so in that case it's better news for Portugal.

 

[Eidechse]

We don't know if new-age-Luxembourg will go the same route as old-school-Luxembourg (e.g. always sending french songs). To me it looks like they're really ambitious now and it would surprise me, if they want to milk on the recent success of Voilá or Tout l’univers - because what other french song was successful in ESC these days?). Anyways, I don't think singing in french has benefitted (or italian for that matter) has benefitted Switzerland in the recent past anyway. They are basically Belgium2.0 meaning that entries from different parts of the country address a different target group. It also seems that Diaspora is more working for the country people migrated from so in that case it's better news for Portugal.

You are correct.

The Luxembourg we are getting now isn't the same one we are used to. Different HoD, new musical trends, and different circumstances regarding management/resources. Luxembourg could be closer to Germany this time when they probably will target the biggest and most accessible European market to sell their songs in.

Only time will tell.

 

[njdevils94]

On their return to Eurovision in 2024 Luxembourg will be hosting a National Final on January 27th at the Rockhal in Esch/Belval.

https://today.rtl.lu/culture/music/a/2081356.html

One of the important requirements for applicants.

Hold Luxembourgish nationality or have resided in Luxembourg for at least three consecutive years or EXHIBIT bit a strong cultural involvement and proven connection with the Luxembourgish music scene. In the latter case, several criteria must be fulfilled, including active national engagement in musical practice, regular collaboration with recognized cultural institutions and actors within the Luxembourgish scene.

 

[Miss Antartica]

After Sweden, Ukraine and Italy an another country with a good national final.

 

[MopManMoss]

After Sweden, Ukraine and Italy an another country with a good national final.

Pabandom is naujo has been amazing time after time I won't hear otherwise

 

[JenJen94]

On their return to Eurovision in 2024 Luxembourg will be hosting a National Final on January 27th at the Rockhal in Esch/Belval.

https://today.rtl.lu/culture/music/a/2081356.html

One of the important requirements for applicants.

Oooh I'm so excited for this!!

 

[aeon]

Yes, Luxembourg is doing it right. My compliments.

🇱🇺 Luxembourg: RTL Confirms National Final to Select Eurovision Song - Eurovoix

Luxembourg will use a national final to find the song that will represent the Grand Duchy as they make their long-awaited return to Eurovision.

eurovoix.com

 

[A-lister]

Benelux isn't going to be a voting bloc I don't even think Dutch and Luxembourgish peeps feel like they culturally speaking have anything in common, it's just three small countries surrounded by giants.
And even the Netherlands and Belgium are only lenient towards each other if you count just half of Belgium.

I guess Luxembourg-France will be some sort of thing??

Well, maybe your region could learn from others then

Not that I'm advocating for bloc voting, but it does exist in the Nordics and the Balkans... I'm surprised to hear that Benelux folks wouldn't feel like they have anything in common?

 

[0scar]

I'm surprised to hear that Benelux folks wouldn't feel like they have anything in common?

It's just the Dutch and the Flemish that are somewhat connected with some shared tv programs, music bands, celebrities that have careers at both sides of the border, and it's all mostly based on the fact that we speak the same language, but even culturally speaking both the Netherlands and Flanders are really different. The only thing the Netherlands and Luxembourg share is basically their geographical location (and colours of our flags!!!!!)

I can't speak for the Belgians but from what I think I know is that even the Flemish and the Walloons don't feel like they share a lot of things except for well.. their country.

The cultural connection between Wallonia, France and Luxembourg is pretty unknown to me so if someone from those countries/regions could educate me of that, I'm interested!

 

[A-lister]

It's just the Dutch and the Flemish that are somewhat connected with some shared tv programs, music bands, celebrities that have careers at both sides of the border, and it's all mostly based on the fact that we speak the same language, but even culturally speaking both the Netherlands and Flanders are really different. The only thing the Netherlands and Luxembourg share is basically their geographical location (and colours of our flags!!!!!)

I can't speak for the Belgians but from what I think I know is that even the Flemish and the Walloons don't feel like they share a lot of things except for well.. their country.

The cultural connection between Wallonia, France and Luxembourg is pretty unknown to me so if someone from those countries/regions could educate me of that, I'm interested!

Well, in the Nordics it's also just a few names that cross over between the borders if we talk about music acts, and mostly it's international acts that also have some success outside of Nordics itself so I don't even count those. As for the people we see in Eurovision for Nordic countries, they are 99.99% unknown outside of each countries' borders (and sometimes even within the countries lol) so the reason for bloc voting (in our case) has nothing to do with whether the names are known or not, it's more that we are quite interconnected as a region I guess and feel a connection with each other and I think often the stuff we send to Eurovision also resonates within the region. Then of course there is some diaspora, mainly Finns in Sweden but also Swedes in Norway and the Iceland-Denmark connection.

Based on what you say the Benelux don't feel as close, but it's still a bit surprising to me. Although I must say with Luxembourg, it could actually benefit neighbors (+ Portugal) more than Luxembourg itself given the high percentage of Portuguese diaspora living in the country and the fact that many people who live in Luxembourg are from neighbor countries just there for work basically.

We will see, will be interesting to see how Luxembourg will fair in the televoting era and who could benefit from them back. But Luxembourg is no San Marino, Andorra or Monaco, that's all I wanted to say with my initial post.

 

[aeon]

As for block voting, it mostly did not happen between german speaking countries but recently some fan organisations try to create it under the name DACH (Deutschland/Austria/ConfHelvetica). I do not like it, we should judge the songs only.
Moreover it is because of big balkan/slavic/iberian diasporas that the votes don't go to german speaking neighbours. The same applies to Benelux. Nordics are block voting because their viking ancestry is basically the same and a strong identity, they manage to outvote the diasporas.

 

[MopManMoss]

The idea that the Benelux wont be a voting bloc now that Luxembourg is back is naive in my opinion, the only country that would get consistent high points from Luxembourg that is not NL/BE will be Portugal

 

[MopManMoss]

I don’t see Netherlands up there at all. Before them come Portugal, Germany, France, then Belgium and I am not sure about NL at all.

If Denmark can give 4 points to Sweden, a very very close country, why would Luxembourg heap their points over Netherlands. And aren’t you the mop who came to claim that a lack of allies is a lame excuse for us Austrians? Our 16 televoting points are definitely harder earned than those of Portugal and Serbia.

The year is 3034 Ezio AI is the governor of the Martian colony of New Austria, he is still going on about Pia Maria

 

[soundofsilence]

I will be AI governor and you will be stardusT

Bruh..
Harsh much

 

[MopManMoss]

Bruh..
Harsh much

Its OK its just a game of flirting me and ezio have been doing for some time now

 

[Mainshow]

Them asking for acts to be from Luxembourg or having lived there is a very bold move! Kudos to them!