Italy ITALY 2021 - Måneskin - Zitti e buoni

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Sanremo 2021: Vote for YOUR favourite!

Loro non sanno di che parlo
Voi siete sporchi, fra’, di fango
Giallo di siga’ fra le dita
Io con la siga’ camminando
Scusami, ma ci credo tanto
Che posso fare questo salto
Anche se la strada è in salita
Per questo ora mi sto allenando

E buonasera signore e signori
Fuori gli attori
Vi conviene toccarvi i coglioni
Vi conviene stare zitti e buoni
Qui la gente è strana, tipo spacciatori
Troppe notti stavo chiuso fuori
Mo’ li prendo a calci, ‘sti portoni
Sguardo in alto, tipo scalatori
Quindi scusa mamma se sto sempre fuori, ma

Sono fuori di testa, ma diverso da loro
E tu sei fuori di testa, ma diversa da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro
No

Io ho scritto pagine e pagine
Ho visto sale, poi lacrime
Questi uomini in macchina
Non scalare le rapide
Scritto sopra una lapide
"In casa mia non c’è Dio"
Ma se trovi il senso del tempo
Risalirai dal tuo oblio
E non c’è vento che fermi
La naturale potenza
Dal punto giusto di vista
Del vento senti l’ebrezza
Con ali in cera alla schiena
Ricercherò quell’altezza
Se vuoi fermarmi, ritenta
Prova a tagliarmi la testa
Perché

Sono fuori di testa, ma diverso da loro
E tu sei fuori di testa, ma diversa da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro

Parla la gente, purtroppo
Parla, non sa di che cosa parla
Tu portami dove sto a galla
Che qui mi manca l’aria
E parla la gente, purtroppo
Parla, non sa di che cosa parla
Tu portami dove sto a galla
Che qui mi manca l’aria
Parla la gente, purtroppo
Parla, non sa di che cazzo parla
Tu portami dove sto a galla
Che qui mi manca l’aria

Ma sono fuori di testa, ma diverso da loro
E tu sei fuori di testa, ma diversa da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro

Noi siamo diversi da loro​

 

[Jopi]

Damiano looking like Achille here

 

[A-lister]

I missed the drama. Boo. What happned???!!!

Let's get back on topic.

I've never ONCE loved an Italian entry since 2011. Il Volo was cute and Nina Zilli served some enjoyable Amy Winehouse lite. But the rest was just not to my taste, despite there being a level of quality in each Italian entry.

Also, found Soldi a bit smug. Is it just me?

Yeah, I also missed it, apparently it got heated but not sure what it was all about... oh well..

Those entries you mentioned + 2011 and Gabbani , are my least favs since Italy's comeback

 

[Mrm]

What are you not getting? I just said that you're not in a position to look down on other people for enjoying uptempo hits or other songs who are not approved by the almighty civilised musical "experts", when you yourself have been a fan of them and you are now as well (ie. Russia 2021).

I still do not get it cause that you write is simply not true...
First I didn't look down on ANYBODY, for whatever..
Second I don't agree with your description of Russian entry and that is one of the reasons why I'm feeling I do not belong here any more.. It is simple...

 

[Gera11]

I've never ONCE loved an Italian entry since 2011. Il Volo was cute and Nina Zilli served some enjoyable Amy Winehouse lite. But the rest was just not to my taste, despite there being a level of quality in each Italian entry.

Also, found Soldi a bit smug. Is it just me?

I liked Nina Zilli (her first song more than her actual ESC entry), Marco Mengoni, Il Volo, Gabbani, Mahmood, Diodato and now Måneskin. Overall, I think Italy is a bit overrated in the community, but I appreciate the authenticity their entries bring.

 

[Mrm]

Overall, I think Italy is a bit overrated in the community, but I appreciate the authenticity their entries bring.

I'm sorry, but may I ask you now is SM maybe overrated in the community?

 

[Gera11]

I'm sorry, but may I ask you now is SM maybe overrated in the community?

Maybe, but it's hardly viewed as this apotheosis of music as some Italian entries have been considered in the past, not to mention being at the top in odds year after year

 

[nudiecrudi]

Yeah, that's the charm with music in the end of the day, there is something for everyone

I actually don't mind her styling at all (quite the contrary I found the slight hint at the Roman Empire pretty stylish and not trashy at all), however I do agree there was something off with the overall staging and vocal delivery as well (not sure if her vocals were the issue though or that the background music was too loud)...

I remember that night clearly, I was feeling so embarrassing for her.
One of my friends used a term in Italian La carciofara which means a yelling country woman who sells artichokes

 

[crashworld]

The magic of music. There is place for everybody.
La mia città is a good song but Emma got a completely wrong interpretation and staging. She was voiceless, a bit trashy, the outfit disconnected with the song.
It was too much.
I don't dislike the song but the way she sold it to the ESC audience. Our worst risult ever, not counting 50 - 60 ies.

To be honest, I like her outfit. It's actually quite nicely done. But I just feel she's a little too aggressive for my liking. Plus she's isn't the strongest vocalist and the song is pretty forgettable. So overall, I'm not sold on the package.

 

[A-lister]

I remember that night clearly, I was feeling so embarrassing for her.
One of my friends used a term in Italian La carciofara which means a yelling country woman who sells artichokes

That term or whatever makes no sense to an outsider

I still think the styling was cool, but yeah something with the rest of the performance felt a bit off... that's a shame because it really is a cool track.

I prefer Italy much more when you're pushing boundaries (in ESC context that is) than these more "conservative" entries, but what's interesting is that I recently went down memory lane to go through old Eurovision years and you've been quite progressive at times, I think it's forgotten because some of the more known Italian entries throughout the years were super conventional.

 

[nudiecrudi]

I liked Nina Zilli (her first song more than her actual ESC entry), Marco Mengoni, Il Volo, Gabbani, Mahmood, Diodato and now Måneskin. Overall, I think Italy is a bit overrated in the community, but I appreciate the authenticity their entries bring.

Have you ever thought that maybe what italy brings has quality and year by year matches as much as possible the tastes of the majority in this forum?
And the results could be an indicator?
After Sweden best country in rankings in the last decade.
Is it possible? Or is easier to think Overrated?

 

[nudiecrudi]

That term or whatever makes no sense to an outsider

I still think the styling was cool, but yeah something with the rest of the performance felt a bit off... that's a shame because it really is a cool track.

I prefer Italy much more when you're pushing boundaries (in ESC context that is) than these more "conservative" entries, but what's interesting is that I recently went down memory lane to go through old Eurovision years and you've been quite progressive at times, I think it's forgotten because some of the more known Italian entries throughout the years were super conventional.

I'm very curious to know which are the countries usually continuously push the boundaries?
Please don't tell me Sweden.
I mean we presented Mahmood and a classic balad won.

 

[Gera11]

Have you ever thought that maybe what italy brings has quality and year by year matches as much as possible the tastes of the majority in this forum?
And the results could be an indicator?
After Sweden best country in rankings in the last decade.
Is it possible? Or is easier to think Overrated?

Perhaps, but (according to my personal taste of course) some of the entries sent did not deserve the hype they received, such as "Non mi avete fatto niente" or "No Degree of Separation", which were even considered as potential winners to some.

No need to get so defensive now.

 

[Jopi]

Non mi avete fatto niente is by far the best song of 2018 lol

 

[A-lister]

I'm very curious to know which are the countries usually continuously push the boundaries?
Please don't tell me Sweden.
I mean we presented Mahmood and a classic balad won.

Oh definitely not Sweden

I'd say Ukraine is one of those countries, Georgia too (although I am no fan of what they bring but + for effort I guess). There are also some others that occasionally surprise with a bit more "original" stuff (and original should be taken with a grain of salt here, I refer to Eurovision context obviously)

 

[nudiecrudi]

I'm not g

Perhaps, but (according to my personal taste of course) some of the entries sent did not deserve the hype they received, such as "Non mi avete fatto niente" or "No Degree of Separation", which were even considered as potential winners to some.

No need to get so defensive now.

I'm not getting defensive, just wanted to understand what you shared with us, your point of view. That's it.

 

[nudiecrudi]

Oh definitely not Sweden

I'd say Ukraine is one of those countries, Georgia too (although I am no fan of what they bring but + for effort I guess). There are also some others that occasionally surprise with a bit more "original" stuff (and original should be taken with a grain of salt here, I refer to Eurovision context obviously)

OK. But you mentioned just two countries, and some ones that once or twice have sent some innovative songs but usually are more conservative than Italy.
So the same observation should be done to all 36 countries.

 

[Mrm]

This chaos here was just to catch the Swedish thread with the number of pages...

 

[A-lister]

OK. But you mentioned just two countries, and some ones that once or twice have sent some innovative songs but usually are more conservative than Italy.
So the same observation should be done to all 36 countries.

I am not sure what we're talking about here even? I am not going to sit and review all ESC countries in this thread

I gave a couple of countries that tend to be more, lack of better words; "forward-thinking in an ESC context. I don't agree they are more conservative than Italy, then again I didn't say that Italy was conservative either (I just said that for some reason some of your more conservative entries became more successful... but the same can be said about many other countries since being forward-thinking in ESC, especially when the juries are so conservative, is risky).

 

[Franzilein]

The reason is that Sanremo it's not strictly an ESC selection, Sanremo is The Italian Music Festival, all the contestants write for the Italian audience/market and do not care about staging or costumes. Even if i do not like my coutry's entries, (like Il Volo or Emma), I'm glad that we bring songs that belong to our culture and not something artificial just made to please international audience.

Italian is a romance language, we come from the latin Ars Oratoria. Musically we have a huge legacy of poetic singer-songweiters such as De Andrè, Lucio Dalla, Franco Battiato and so many others. Most of the contemporay musicians and authors can only dream to mimic that golden-age era lirically speaking.

This is way we send wordy entries. You cannot write good poetry without words.. unless you are Hermetic.

That is actually quite an interesting point that I haven't thought about much yet... but I remember reading that the ESC is just considered a "bonus" by many, with San Remo being the real deal. So it's even more fascinating how Italy manages to achieve so many good results, especially through the televoting.

And about the "wordy entries"; I don't want to think in stereotypes (even though there is always a spark of truth to them, no? ), but all of the Italians I got to know in my life so far were so bubbly and lively. So I really love how it reflects in their music... just realized that one of my favourite Italian songs ever is also quite word-heavy in the strophes despite the song being so calm

 

[Mrm]

My parents were shocked that rock entry can win San Remo..They still live in the era of Iva Zanicchi and Al Bano & Romina Power!