Italy ITALY 2021 - Måneskin - Zitti e buoni

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Sanremo 2021: Vote for YOUR favourite!

Loro non sanno di che parlo
Voi siete sporchi, fra’, di fango
Giallo di siga’ fra le dita
Io con la siga’ camminando
Scusami, ma ci credo tanto
Che posso fare questo salto
Anche se la strada è in salita
Per questo ora mi sto allenando

E buonasera signore e signori
Fuori gli attori
Vi conviene toccarvi i coglioni
Vi conviene stare zitti e buoni
Qui la gente è strana, tipo spacciatori
Troppe notti stavo chiuso fuori
Mo’ li prendo a calci, ‘sti portoni
Sguardo in alto, tipo scalatori
Quindi scusa mamma se sto sempre fuori, ma

Sono fuori di testa, ma diverso da loro
E tu sei fuori di testa, ma diversa da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro
No

Io ho scritto pagine e pagine
Ho visto sale, poi lacrime
Questi uomini in macchina
Non scalare le rapide
Scritto sopra una lapide
"In casa mia non c’è Dio"
Ma se trovi il senso del tempo
Risalirai dal tuo oblio
E non c’è vento che fermi
La naturale potenza
Dal punto giusto di vista
Del vento senti l’ebrezza
Con ali in cera alla schiena
Ricercherò quell’altezza
Se vuoi fermarmi, ritenta
Prova a tagliarmi la testa
Perché

Sono fuori di testa, ma diverso da loro
E tu sei fuori di testa, ma diversa da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro

Parla la gente, purtroppo
Parla, non sa di che cosa parla
Tu portami dove sto a galla
Che qui mi manca l’aria
E parla la gente, purtroppo
Parla, non sa di che cosa parla
Tu portami dove sto a galla
Che qui mi manca l’aria
Parla la gente, purtroppo
Parla, non sa di che cazzo parla
Tu portami dove sto a galla
Che qui mi manca l’aria

Ma sono fuori di testa, ma diverso da loro
E tu sei fuori di testa, ma diversa da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro

Noi siamo diversi da loro​

 

[Sammy]

I think, this will be a grower for me. Just outside my top ten for the moment, but there are a bunch of possible faders ahead of it...

 

[i anixi]

I agree with you completely.
But dreaming doesn't cost anything.
Have you forgotten when you started to dream a week before eurovision 2017?
At that time nobody was believing Portugal was going to win. But it happened.

I have actually started to dream the first time I watched it in the Portuguese semi final and started a cruzade with my fellow countrymen to help it be the chosen one to ESC. It almost wasn't Dreamt of a top 5 though tbh, the victory was so sure to go to Italy, which was BTW, quite a fun song.
Problem with Italy is, I think, the cut they are forced to do to go according the 3 minute rule. It always impoverishes things a bit and there's often an overall feeling of disappointment when it goes on the eurovision stage.
Anyways, I was kind of joking of course. Italy is usually among the favorites, but it is also true that it usually ends up high up in the final scoreboards.

 

[nudiecrudi]

I have actually started to dream the first time I watched it in the Portuguese semi final and started a cruzade with my fellow countrymen to help it be the chosen one to ESC. It almost wasn't Dreamt of a top 5 though tbh, the victory was so sure to go to Italy, which was BTW, quite a fun song.
Problem with Italy is, I think, the cut they are forced to do to go according the 3 minute rule. It always impoverishes things a bit and there's often an overall feeling of disappointment when it goes on the eurovision stage.
Anyways, I was kind of joking of course. Italy is usually among the favorites, but it is also true that it usually ends up high up in the final scoreboards.

I've been one of the fewest to give a 12 to Portugal that year, months before becoming a real contender.
I've heard many times this story of song cutting. In 11 years only one time a song was shortened badly, the other ones were acceptable.
This rule is ridiculous

 

[ESC94]

Ok, upgraded this song to , it´s not that bad but still one of my least favourite entries from .

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

There's no way this is winning eurovision, is there? It's just the bookmakers have got used to having Italy on top and feel sort of uncomfortable to change that established order of things. Is it that or could they be getting a perverse kick out of seeing it flop year after year?

Bookmakers' calculations aside, any song can win the ESC. However, what you wrote is very interesting. If you have defined that, year after year, we fail miserably even if we have the favor of the forecasts, have you not just confirmed our theses?

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

I don't know if this is winning Eurovision of not, however Italy's odds have improved since Maneskin won. If Italy's odds were about established order of things only, the opposite would've been true and we would see those odds getting worse (which is precisely what we see happening with Russia).

HayashiM, the ESC can win anyone. I contest senseless criticism. I am very critical and I could say bad words about the songs brought by Emma Marrone and Francesca Michielin. But ... I want to ask you a question. You don't think this song can win, I respect your thinking, however many songs that won the Contest were candidates for victory? Have you ever thought of seeing Netta or Sobral triumph?

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

I have actually started to dream the first time I watched it in the Portuguese semi final and started a cruzade with my fellow countrymen to help it be the chosen one to ESC. It almost wasn't Dreamt of a top 5 though tbh, the victory was so sure to go to Italy, which was BTW, quite a fun song.
Problem with Italy is, I think, the cut they are forced to do to go according the 3 minute rule. It always impoverishes things a bit and there's often an overall feeling of disappointment when it goes on the eurovision stage.
Anyways, I was kind of joking of course. Italy is usually among the favorites, but it is also true that it usually ends up high up in the final scoreboards.

The consideration of the 3 minutes is interesting. I have often thought about it too and for this reason, especially Irama, would have suffered the cutting phase (which will not happen to the Maneskin). But ... in your opinion, those who live on music and know they have the opportunity to go to the ESC are not prepared for this? However, our songs over 3 minutes make you realize that they are not songs that come from the thought "I have to go to the ESC". Our music hates stakes.

A curiosity. Do you know what is causing the 3 minute limit? It was because of Nunzio Gallo. Our 1957 song is known for being the longest in the entire history of Eurovision: a full five minutes and nine seconds. From the next edition it was decided to include musical pieces that did not exceed 3 minutes and 30 seconds in duration; later this limit was reduced to 3 minutes.

 

[HayashiM]

HayashiM, the ESC can win anyone. I contest senseless criticism. I am very critical and I could say bad words about the songs brought by Emma Marrone and Francesca Michielin. But ... I want to ask you a question. You don't think this song can win, I respect your thinking, however many songs that won the Contest were candidates for victory? Have you ever thought of seeing Netta or Sobral triumph?

I probably didn't make myself clear - I don't say Maneskin can't win, I actually think they could, I just didn't feel like writing long speculations about it.

I wanted to write a short comment showing that no, this is not just bookmakers supposedly overrating Italy because Italy is always good. This is bookmakers (or at this point, the entire odds market more than just bookmakers, as this isn't early days of the NF season anymore where odds depend solely on bookmakers whim) genuinely believing in the entry, because once Maneskin won, Italy's odds improved.

Edit: there are big expectations from the current odds favourite Iceland, and these expectations won't be easy to meet. It wouldn't surprise me at all if we saw Italy taking that n°1 spot in the odds very shortly.

 

[i anixi]

I don't know if they're prepared or not, I myself always feel a litle robbed in the end.
Had no idea about what you're telling me, and that's really interesting. Enjoyed learning about it. They should have stayed at the 3 minute and a half IMO. There's more room for the composers to develop their compositions. 3 minutes is too short really.
(this is meant as a reply to H. P. Lovecraft, but somehow it didn't work out..)

 

[njdevils94]

Jutro je is number 2 on Spotify's Viral 50 in Italy at the moment.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

I probably didn't make myself clear - I don't say Maneskin can't win, I actually think they could, I just didn't feel like writing long speculations about it.

I wanted to write a short comment showing that no, this is not just bookmakers supposedly overrating Italy because Italy is always good. This is bookmakers (or at this point, the entire odds market more than just bookmakers, as this isn't early days of the NF season anymore where odds depend solely on bookmakers whim) genuinely believing in the entry, because once Maneskin won, Italy's odds improved.

Edit: there are big expectations from the current odds favourite Iceland, and these expectations won't be easy to meet. It wouldn't surprise me at all if we saw Italy taking that n°1 spot in the odds very shortly.

I understood what you meant. I like that you speculate. You are always very balanced.

Bookmakers are often not a certainty. Obviously, those who are high in the ranking of bookmakers have a strong chance of finishing at the top of the ranking (from the first to the tenth position).

Iceland still enjoys the great excitement it sparked last year and, if I read that right, the backroom deals with Netflix. It is normal to be earlier in the preferences. We must now see what the actual strength of the piece is. If Iceland's track is not excellent but good, it could still aspire to at least twelfth position. These are always my speculations which can be disproved.

 

[luli]

Jutro je is number 2 on Spotify's Viral 50 in Italy at the moment.

Hahhahahahahhaha

 

[Jopi]

All in all, I think it's safe to say that IRAMA and ELODIE need to go to ESC once.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

All in all, I think it's safe to say that IRAMA and ELODIE need to go to ESC once.

I hope so for them but the selection to win Sanremo is very tough. You must think that if they did not succeed with "Andromeda" and "La genesi del tuo colore" which were very strong songs, it is difficult that they will be able to bring better (but, who knows, nothing it is not impossible).

 

[hzalfa]

I hope so for them but the selection to win Sanremo is very tough. You must think that if they did not succeed with "Andromeda" and "La genesi del tuo colore" which were very strong songs, it is difficult that they will be able to bring better (but, who knows, nothing it is not impossible).

Elodie's popularity skyrocketed since last year though, so if she decides to participate again she might do better with the televote. Irama also has a devoted fanbase, but he was facing acts even more popular than him in both 2019 (Ultimo) and 2021 (Maneskin, Francesca&Fedez). Of course that's assuming the quality of their entries is the same, which I totally think is possible.

 

[nudiecrudi]

We all, italian fans of ESC, would love to have Elodie, Irama and Annalisa. Hope they'll decide to be part of Sanremo again.
I really loved Andromeda last year, should have been a real contender in ESC, but I also loved Diodato, that song became an anthem for us Italians and his performance at Arena di Verona was a masterpiece.
I think Irama needs a bit more maturity, musically speaking. That's it, then he ll be perfect for Sanremo.
A bit deluded by Annalisa this year, I found Dieci a sanremese style. I wasn't expecting smth special though because after the first press listening all the critics classified her song classic, which isn't a bad thing but from her I was waiting smth more. Il mondo prima di te was beautiful. Unfortunately for her that year M&M had a very strong proposal.

 

[Morty]

Late to the party here, and I've only read the last 5 pages, so it looks like I've missed a lot. But Zitti e buoni is great! I often think the Italian entries are above average, but they rarely stand out to me. This one stands out. There's really only one thing that's a problem with this, and that's the Finnish entry, which I think is better. Torn between 8 and 10 here, but landing on an 8 for now.

Sad to see so many writing Maneskin instead of Måneskin tho.

 

[hzalfa]

Sad to see so many writing Maneskin instead of Måneskin tho.

Å is simply not on Italian keyboards, I can type it easily on my phone, but it's not worth the effort to type it on PC/laptop.

 

[Preuss]

I can't see Italy not doing well with this one? I don't like the genre but I find myself humming the song and fully intrigued whenever I watch them perform and the performance. Italy's performers are always top-notch, though their stagings usually leave a lot to be desired...

 

[Jopi]

@H.P. Lovecraft I think they won't have a problem winning Sanremo when they have the right song. Irama should go with something like LRCCDL. But, actually, they are both killing with every genre they sang, so..
Also Annalisa is super good, she just needs a killing ballad.
But my wish forever is Fred de Palma