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Sanremo 2021: Vote for YOUR favourite!

Loro non sanno di che parlo
Voi siete sporchi, fra’, di fango
Giallo di siga’ fra le dita
Io con la siga’ camminando
Scusami, ma ci credo tanto
Che posso fare questo salto
Anche se la strada è in salita
Per questo ora mi sto allenando

E buonasera signore e signori
Fuori gli attori
Vi conviene toccarvi i coglioni
Vi conviene stare zitti e buoni
Qui la gente è strana, tipo spacciatori
Troppe notti stavo chiuso fuori
Mo’ li prendo a calci, ‘sti portoni
Sguardo in alto, tipo scalatori
Quindi scusa mamma se sto sempre fuori, ma

Sono fuori di testa, ma diverso da loro
E tu sei fuori di testa, ma diversa da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro
No

Io ho scritto pagine e pagine
Ho visto sale, poi lacrime
Questi uomini in macchina
Non scalare le rapide
Scritto sopra una lapide
"In casa mia non c’è Dio"
Ma se trovi il senso del tempo
Risalirai dal tuo oblio
E non c’è vento che fermi
La naturale potenza
Dal punto giusto di vista
Del vento senti l’ebrezza
Con ali in cera alla schiena
Ricercherò quell’altezza
Se vuoi fermarmi, ritenta
Prova a tagliarmi la testa
Perché

Sono fuori di testa, ma diverso da loro
E tu sei fuori di testa, ma diversa da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro

Parla la gente, purtroppo
Parla, non sa di che cosa parla
Tu portami dove sto a galla
Che qui mi manca l’aria
E parla la gente, purtroppo
Parla, non sa di che cosa parla
Tu portami dove sto a galla
Che qui mi manca l’aria
Parla la gente, purtroppo
Parla, non sa di che cazzo parla
Tu portami dove sto a galla
Che qui mi manca l’aria

Ma sono fuori di testa, ma diverso da loro
E tu sei fuori di testa, ma diversa da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro

Noi siamo diversi da loro​
 
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Å is simply not on Italian keyboards, I can type it easily on my phone, but it's not worth the effort to type it on PC/laptop. :p
Interesting. Would have thought it was more difficult on a phone, because on a computer, you can just copy either just the letter å or the name Måneskin from the thread title. ;) Copy+paste was invented for this. :p
 

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Interesting. Would have thought it was more difficult on a phone, because on a computer, you can just copy either just the letter å or the name Måneskin from the thread title. ;) Copy+paste was invented for this. :p
On my phone I just need to keep my finger on the letter 'a' for half a second and I can select all variations of the letter, it's less effort than having to select the letter and press Ctrl+c and Ctrl+v, but I guess that if I copy the whole band name then your method becomes more efficient. :unsure:
 

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I have a question to Italians in this thread.

Tell me, is Eurovision popular in Italy at all? Does it get talked about or is it ignored? Do artists ever say they are willing/would like to participate?

I'm really curious. It always felt to me that ESC is somewhat less important to the artists, because they've already achieved success in Italy etiher by winning Sanremo or just by being an established act.
 
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I have a question to Italians in this thread.

Tell me, is Eurovision popular in Italy at all? Does it get talked about or is it ignored? Do artists ever say they are willing/would like to participate?

I'm really curious. It always felt to me that ESC is somewhat less important to the artists, because they've already achieved success in Italy etiher by winning Sanremo or just by being an established act.
The Eurovision Song Contest at the beginning of its history was inspired by Sanremo so Italy for which this "copy" was not too successful in Italians. Why see the same show twice in a language I don't know? Furthermore, Italian music, even if it has its charm, was less salable at the time than French (much stronger at the time) and English (which along the way would have surpassed it as a "universal language"). Italy, except for the one mistake that Modugno made (if I am not mistaken, the only last place we obtained), has always honored the competition. Then ... the more time passed, the more the interest of the Italians collapsed the fault of our TV and record companies. Everything fell into oblivion. We must add three more concepts:

1) participating had and still has costs and winning would have doubled them. These already added to the much money spent on the Festival (the costs are higher than those of an ESC). So we often left our best singers at home.

2) The annoying "voting blocks" that made it too predictable and boring a game.

3) The ESC had become a victim of the Trash genre.

Three additional concepts to what I wrote earlier that gave a fatal coup de grace.

The Sanremo Festival, however, did not help to leave the ESC. By now it was turning into a farce ... the winners were always hated by the public. It became common opinion that whoever finished second at our Festival was the true champion. Our Festival was collapsing on itself.

On the other hand, the European countries working together had managed to "change clothes" the ESC and to open up to new horizons. This is to applaud until our hands come red. It must also be said that the new generations, more and more festive and devoid of the sad memories of a divided Europe, ignited the Contest of enthusiasm.

Italy chose to join the ESC and returned with great disdain from Turkey (that's why you can see some members from Turkey - a few riotous members - come here every time to spark the speeches - the moderator had to step in too) and Sweden (and its allies) who saw our return to the "Big 5" as an undeserved privilege. We didn't make the rules and therefore, as sorry as we are, they didn't have to be nervous with us but with the committee that manages the Contest.

Since our return, Italy has contributed to the ESC and has always sent top singers. Our music was undergoing a "revolution". Sanremo was finally choosing to give space to voices that he deliberately left in the shadows.

However, our "new path" was all uphill. We weren't going to win the competition again because we weren't ready. We first had to educate our audience and absorb the European format.

Now our audience knows and loves ESC very well. When you read about people who say that Italy snubs the ESC it is not true. There is only one rule of our Festival that the winner can choose not to represent Italy and delegate someone else. This rule, however, was enough for those who still define us "conservatives" (we have shown that it is not true) and "overrated"... to continue throwing mud at us.

There is much more to say but ... I would go off topic and become verbose. I hope I have dispelled your doubts.
 
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I have a question to Italians in this thread.

Tell me, is Eurovision popular in Italy at all? Does it get talked about or is it ignored? Do artists ever say they are willing/would like to participate?

I'm really curious. It always felt to me that ESC is somewhat less important to the artists, because they've already achieved success in Italy etiher by winning Sanremo or just by being an established act.
My personal opinion.
Having such a huge musical event like Sanremo it has never been a place for ESC.
L'Eurofestival, until, 2011, was never taken seriously and our representatives were chosen randomly without any project. Something to take rid quickly without any cost possibly. The event wasnt broadcasted on the main channel RAIUNO but on the second one and not live.
Let me mention some our representatives from the 80 ies and 90 ies.
Anna Oxa and Fausto Leali won Sanremo with Ti lascerò but went to ESC with Avrei voluto, the B side of their main song.
Mattia Bazar the same
Riccardo fogli the same.
Albano and Romina the same
Ricchi e Poveri the same
Luca Barbarossa the same
Mia Martini the same
Enrico Ruggiero the same
The famous Insieme was written only for ESC, and nobody outside the Eurovision bubble knows that song.
The only ones that used the sanremese winning song were Jalisse.
But things changed after 2011.
Somehow Rai decided to invest on ESC.
Maybe the Majors realized at that time that the Italian artists could have another possibility, the European scene. Internet, socials things have changed rapidly.
Our firs contender, Raphael Gualazzi didn't win the main contest but the newcomers one and Sugar, a very important label by Caterina Caselli, decided to invest on him. It was the beginning of a new era but still not very convincing.
I think that after 2015 ESC has become a reality to the Italian public.
It's getting better every year but still isn't even the most music show behind Sanremo. X factor and Amici are still more popular.
 
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My personal opinion.
Having such a huge musical event like Sanremo it has never been a place for ESC.
L'Eurofestival, until, 2011, was never taken seriously and our representatives were chosen randomly without any project. Something to take rid quickly without any cost possibly. The event wasnt broadcasted on the main channel RAIUNO but on the second one and not live.
Let me mention some our representatives from the 80 ies and 90 ies.
Anna Oxa and Fausto Leali won Sanremo with Ti lascerò but went to ESC with Avrei voluto, the B side of their main song.
Mattia Bazar the same
Riccardo fogli the same.
Albano and Romina the same
Ricchi e Poveri the same
Luca Barbarossa the same
Mia Martini the same
Enrico Ruggiero the same
The famous Insieme was written only for ESC, and nobody outside the Eurovision bubble knows that song.
The only ones that used the sanremese winning song were Jalisse.
But things changed after 2011.
Somehow Rai decided to invest on ESC.
Maybe the Majors realized at that time that the Italian artists could have another possibility, the European scene. Internet, socials things have changed rapidly.
Our firs contender, Raphael Gualazzi didn't win the main contest but the newcomers one and Sugar, a very important label by Caterina Caselli, decided to invest on him. It was the beginning of a new era but still not very convincing.
I think that after 2015 ESC has become a reality to the Italian public.
It's getting better every year but still isn't even the most music show behind Sanremo. X factor and Amici are still more popular.
It should be added, Nudiecrudi, that Ruggeri and the Jalisse themselves complained about Rai. Especially the Jalisse. They had "victory in their pockets" but pushed the juries to penalize them for not having to host the ESC.

Read this article: https://europazzia.com/2012/04/14/italia-rai-vs-esc-tutti-i-boicottaggi-e-il-caso-jalisse-1997″/
 

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I'm so glad Italy came back - seriously, even though I dislike your entry this year - I'm glad to see a country in the final who likes to take risks, sings in its own language (most of the time) and delivers so much quality.

I have always asked myself if Sanremo's popularity has made Italians forget about Eurovision but after sending Marco Mengoni, Emma, Il Volo (all arguably (nowadays) well-known and established names) the popularity must have increased? - Diodato had all means to win Eurovision; it's a pity, you didn't have the chance to get a very good placing with his song.

It's interesting to read that Turkey didn't want to see the return of Italy (or did I misunderstand that part?)... maybe that's part of the reason they withdrew all of a sudeen? But dunno, they have become bitter about everything (juries, equality, Big 5, Italy's return apparently, not qualifying in 2011, not winning twice per decade).. so who knows...
 

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İ remember i wasnt thrilled of İtalian come back in 2011 because i didn't like Rafael too much and for me he was overrated but gurl since 2012 serving masterpieces and always in my top being so different each year. My favorite ESC (and not only) country
 
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I'm so glad Italy came back - seriously, even though I dislike your entry this year - I'm glad to see a country in the final who likes to take risks, sings in its own language (most of the time) and delivers so much quality.

I have always asked myself if Sanremo's popularity has made Italians forget about Eurovision but after sending Marco Mengoni, Emma, Il Volo (all arguably (nowadays) well-known and established names) the popularity must have increased? - Diodato had all means to win Eurovision; it's a pity, you didn't have the chance to get a very good placing with his song.

It's interesting to read that Turkey didn't want to see the return of Italy (or did I misunderstand that part?)... maybe that's part of the reason they withdrew all of a sudeen? But dunno, they have become bitter about everything (juries, equality, Big 5, Italy's return apparently, not qualifying in 2011, not winning twice per decade).. so who knows...
Turkey has openly protested several times and explained that it has not wanted to participate in the competition in recent years even in protest against this mechanism. When they realized that the protest was unheard, they lashed out at Conchita Wurst claiming that the Contest was losing "values". News in hand that you can also find on the internet.

Thank you for your kind words. For us it is not a problem if our song has not won you over. This is normal. Tastes cannot all be the same. The important thing for us is respect. When we have in front of us nice people like you, who can also become dear friends, we are not interested in winning. Winning is always an honor but it doesn't have to become a disease. That's why I go crazy when I see how hard some users are lashing out at others.
 
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İ remember i wasnt thrilled of İtalian come back in 2011 because i didn't like Rafael too much and for me he was overrated but gurl since 2012 serving masterpieces and always in my top being so different each year. My favorite ESC (and not only) country
Thanks Trece :gimmefive: If you are tired of AshleyWright you can start a "bromance" with me xrunhug I am much more passionate!xrosexrofl

Good night ;)
 

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I have a question to Italians in this thread.

Tell me, is Eurovision popular in Italy at all? Does it get talked about or is it ignored? Do artists ever say they are willing/would like to participate?

I'm really curious. It always felt to me that ESC is somewhat less important to the artists, because they've already achieved success in Italy etiher by winning Sanremo or just by being an established act.
A shorter answer compared to the others is: yes, I believe young people nowadays care about ESC, even though it's still not even close to Sanremo in popularity, adults and older people however don't care or don't know about it. It's true that most of our artists don't participate in Sanremo specifically to go to Eurovision, but most of them say that they would like to go when asked about it in interviews, there's no stigma about participating for established artists.
 
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I present to you a little the Italian Rock music scene. Let's start with Lacuna Coil:

Have a good listening xmusic

LAYERS OF TIME: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGSed4hnEv8

SAVE ME: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mTud9BQcF0

TRIP THE DARKNESS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTT6picaCoQ

ENJOY THE SILENCE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lx58hXh4pVA

END OF TIME: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USXHxgWoS9g

RECKLESS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEb1dT62rlc

HEAVEN'S A LIE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wfRHPsRGkk

OUR TRUTH: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB9LXpO6yWo

Lacuna Coil is an Italian alternative metal band, formed in Milan in 1994.

Starting from the album In a Reverie and up to the album Karmacode the greatest composer of the group was the bassist Marco Coti Zelati. Initially the group's sounds had a marked goth metal vein inspired by Paradise Lost, while later it took on characteristics typical of alternative metal.

These sounds are probably what those who gave us a big fat 0 are used to.

Although we love our language, many Italian singers and groups have sung in English.

Many of you might say, "They look like Evanescence. This is nothing new. My tea cup is broken." Instead, it should be known that Lacuna Coil were born before Evanescence :D
 

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I present to you a little the Italian Rock music scene. Let's start with Lacuna Coil:

Have a good listening xmusic

LAYERS OF TIME: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGSed4hnEv8

SAVE ME: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mTud9BQcF0

TRIP THE DARKNESS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTT6picaCoQ

ENJOY THE SILENCE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lx58hXh4pVA

END OF TIME: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USXHxgWoS9g

RECKLESS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEb1dT62rlc

HEAVEN'S A LIE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wfRHPsRGkk

OUR TRUTH: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB9LXpO6yWo

Lacuna Coil is an Italian alternative metal band, formed in Milan in 1994.

Starting from the album In a Reverie and up to the album Karmacode the greatest composer of the group was the bassist Marco Coti Zelati. Initially the group's sounds had a marked goth metal vein inspired by Paradise Lost, while later it took on characteristics typical of alternative metal.

These sounds are probably what those who gave us a big fat 0 are used to.

Although we love our language, many Italian singers and groups have sung in English.

Many of you might say, "They look like Evanescence. This is nothing new. My tea cup is broken." Instead, it should be known that Lacuna Coil were born before Evanescence :D
♥️♥️♥️♥️ Lacuna Coil
So sofisticated and what a sound.
 

nudiecrudi

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I've noticed that Escunited hasn't reacted to Maneskin on their YouTube channel. Is there any reason?
They have reacted to most of the countries, even to the ones that apparently seem to have few chances to get a top 15 result or to qualify.
I mean you may not like it but ignoring one of the songs that by now seems to be appreciated by the odds and the majority of this and other forums.
Is there any problem or strategy by not doing negative reactions?
 

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♥️♥️♥️♥️ Lacuna Coil
So sofisticated and what a sound.
I kinda like Lacuna Coil (not a big fan though) but I think they would sound much better if it was only her singing ... That male singing always turns me off for some reason and it doesn't mesh with Scabbia's vocals.
 

DanielLuis

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I've noticed that Escunited hasn't reacted to Maneskin on their YouTube channel. Is there any reason?
They have reacted to most of the countries, even to the ones that apparently seem to have few chances to get a top 15 result or to qualify.
I mean you may not like it but ignoring one of the songs that by now seems to be appreciated by the odds and the majority of this and other forums.
Is there any problem or strategy by not doing negative reactions?
Take a chill pill
 
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