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Please keep discussion in this thread specific to Eden Golan and her song, Israel's (potential) participation in Eurovision 2024 and discussions or remarks from other countries and organisations about Israel's participation.

Any further discussion of a political or humanitarian nature not relating to specifically Israel in Eurovision 2024 needs to go into the politics sub-forum. Thank you!
 
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Yes because the Russian broadcaster invaded Ukraine

KAN are parading military personnel on their selection show lol I’m sorry

Spot. The. Difference.

The Russian broadcaster breached the rules by promoting the war against Ukraine and being the war propaganda mouthpiece of the Russian government if I remember correctly.

As for KAN, they allowed participants (where some are IDF soldiers) to partake their national selection - where EBU does not intervene on how national selection takes place. Unless KAN behaves in the same way as the Russian broadcaster, then there is no breach of EBU rules.

Please know the difference.
 
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The situation of Russian broadcaster is such that it can't participate in Eurovision by decision of the Council of the Europen Union which had proposed a regulation banning Russia media only 2 days after the invasion of Ukraine started.

The regulations of the Council accepted by all Member States in the beggining of March 2022 prohibit any media in the EU to broadcast any content of Russian broadcaster or Russian private media.

The reason for ban on broadcasting is not only the invasion of Ukraine, but also the actions that Russia had undertaken against the EU Member States, e.g. interference with their elections, security services and armies, or plain hate speech such as TV hosts of Russian broadcaster making public threats of nuking Berlin, annexing Poland etc.

Therefore, to make it perfectly clear, it wasn't the EBU's moral that mandated them to ban Russia from participating in Eurovision. Those were presidents / PMs of all EU Member States who adopted these regulations.

Short communication from the Council in this regard:

On 6 June 2022, the Council of the European Union adopted a Decision and Regulation, which added three further media outlets to the list of Russian media outlets prohibited in the EU under an earlier Decision and Regulation adopted in March 2022, following Russia’s invasion of Ukraine (see IRIS 2022-3/6).

The media outlets added to the list are Rossiya RTR/RTR Planeta, Rossiya 24/Russia 24, and TV Centre International. RT- Russia Today English, RT- Russia Today UK, RT - Russia Today Germany, RT - Russia Today France, RT- Russia Today Spanish, and Sputnik are the media outlets which had been banned under the earlier March 2022 Decision and Regulation. Further, under the new Regulation, and new Decision, it is prohibited to “advertise products or services in any content produced or broadcast by the legal persons, entities or bodies” on the banned media list. Quite importantly, under Article 1(21) of the new Decision, and Article 1(14) of the new Regulation, this ban does not come into effect until 25 June 2022, provided that the Council, “having examined the respective cases, so decides by implementing act”.

Notably, under the earlier March 2022 Decision and Regulation, it was prohibited for “operators to broadcast or to enable, facilitate or otherwise contribute to broadcast, any content by the legal persons, entities or bodies [on the banned media list], including through transmission or distribution by any means such as cable, satellite, IP-TV, internet service providers, internet video-sharing platforms or applications, whether new or pre-installed.” Further, any “broadcasting licence or authorisation, transmission and distribution arrangement with the legal persons, entities or bodies” [on the banned media list] was suspended. While it was also prohibited to “participate, knowingly and intentionally, in activities the object or effect of which is to circumvent prohibitions”, including “by acting as a substitute for natural or legal persons, entities or bodies” on the banned media list. As such, these prohibitions will apply to Rossiya RTR/RTR Planeta, Rossiya 24/Russia 24, and TV Centre International from 25 June 2022, provided that the Council, “having examined the respective cases, so decides by implementing act”.

Finally, Recital 7 of the new Decision states that the new measures “should be maintained until the aggression against Ukraine is put to an end, and until the Russian Federation, and its associated media outlets, cease to conduct propaganda actions against the Union and its Member States”. Recital 13 states that the new measures “do not prevent the media outlets and their staff from carrying out activities in the Union other than broadcasting, such as research and interviews”.


Therefore, please, let's stop these salty parallels by which a TV broadcaster that threatens every second day the EU countries with annihilation in a nuclear war is the same thing as Israel - Hamas terrorist organization conflict.
 
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So there is the finalist list for the next Eurovision star 2024.
The quartet are, Or Cohen, Mika Moshe, Eden Golan and Dor Shimon.
So who will win? Who will come to Eurovision?
 
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In this situation I hope Israel will enter a strong, dramatic and melancholic Ballad in Hebrew with strong Middle Eastern sounds. Something a bit like their 2008 entry Boaz in style.

A Pop song or a standard ballad in English about Peace or whatever will rub the wrong way, regardless of what your stances are on this conflict are. Also, it's long overdue for the former, would love for a real Hebrew affair.
 
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Today, the main Israeli event, the grand final. From what I can tell, the event will be divided into two main stages, a stage where the audience already votes for the finalists, one of the four will be eliminated for one three-way battle.

For the square fight from what I know, Eden Golan went for "I have nothing" by Whitney Houston, the other contestants went for more or less the same genre of Mediterranean ballads
 

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breaking news! now the second part of the final has been published.


If Eden reaches the final, she will sing "I don't miss a thing", by Aerosmith.

If Or makes it to the finals, she chose to sing Charles Barkley's song "crazy".


The other contestants will also sing in Hebrew in the second part of the final, if they qualify.
 

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Details about the grand final of HaKokhav Haba can be found in the following article.



The grand final is scheduled to begin at 20:10 CET. Below is a link to the live stream of Keshet 12.

 

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These are the total number of points that were awarded by the judges.

Eden - 68
Or - 64
Mika - 48

We are still awaiting the results of the public vote.
 

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I sincerely hope that whoever wins and represents Israel has all the mental health and wellbeing support ahead of representing their country during these times. We all know this isn't any one particular person's fault, however that won't stop the online attacks, the booing, the boycotts etc... I just hope they're ready for the inevitable, and I mean that in a non-provocative way to any Israeli members we have.
 

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It's Eden Golan.

Welp, Israel did the impossible. Not only it will be hated by pro-Palestinians, it will be hated by Ukrainians too. They chose a Russian singer who performed on Russian state TV. "Congratulations", I guess. Even tho she publicly denounced putinoids, many people won't give a damn.
 

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She is going to have rought few months ahead of her
 

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Eden has performed very well and exceptionally great throughout the show and she honestly deserved to win the whole thing.

I can't wait to hear her song!
 
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