Ireland IRELAND 2024 - Bambie Thug - Doomsday Blue

[ESC United Mod Team]

 

[PlasticToad]

do you have an explanation then, why some people - not necessarily you - had a problem with Olly? All you said does apply to him also, doesn‘t it?

People have different comfort levels with different things, I guess. I know us in the UK can be a bit prudish about sexual things. But we're not usually fussed about religion or heresy.

 

[MopManMoss]

This is disgusting. This "song" doesn't belong to the ESC, a familial and popular musical show.

She is promoting satanism and she should go to a therapy.

EBU shouldn't allow anything like that to compete.

(btw I thought Ireland's flag was green white and orange).

Belgium isn't real

 

[Lance Esgard]

this is easily the most talked about act of yesterdays semifinal, i'm delighted for bambie. it doesn't make the song any more pleasant (which i think will prevent it from winning in the end) but it's amazing how well the performance is received - and rightfully so! best staging of the year.
say what u want about the theme (i get that it's not for everybody) but the delivery, the storytelling, the camera angles are amazing! prime example that it's not just enough to put some props or gimmick on stage and just let them exist there, the way bambie plays with the circle of candles, the costume change that happens so damn quick, the "demonic" choreo and interaction with the dancer, the "crown the witch" ending - everything here is executed perfectly imo

whatever happens i hope ireland remembers what their acts are capable of if u don't put them in the most anticlimatic studio with the worst sound like in the horrible preselection they put them through.

i didnt get the great betting odds before, i thought it could maybe scratch the top 10 but now i think the top 5 odds are totally deserved

The staging really is excellent. It's like watching a mini horror musical. Despite Eurovision featuring the LED screens and LED floor, it's rare for an Eurovision entry to actually feel cinematic in the way this performance does.

This isn't the strongest entry in a conventional musical sense (it does have appeal particularly for fans of punk and metal) but if people vote on entertainment value/shock value/memorability this could do really well. The current betting odds align with this potential. That isn't how I vote. That may not be how many or most Eurovision fans vote, but the casual audience of Eurovision might be a different matter, at least for a performance will this level of impressive staging.

At time of writing, the performance was the only Eurovision song trending on YouTube, at least for the Australian region (I dunno if the Trending is regionally separated or not). At least in my region, the people engaging with the song is definitely broader than the usual Eurovision audience.

 

[ag89]

Ireland trending in Bosnia at 9th place with Bosnia not participaing nor broadcasting the show.

 

[gingerale]

I'm still processing what I witnessed yesterday. This is one of the sickest Eurovision performances of all time and also one of the most emotional (good and bad emotions).

It's an experience. Well done Ireland.

 

[Kairit]

It's not a song I would put on, but I would honestly love to congratulate the Irish team on this feat of a performance. Incredibly bold, creative and well-executed performance and I'm immensely happy about their qualification. Risks pay off.

 

[randajad]

Crown the witch indeed, absolutely brilliant act.

 

[Cathan]

About to hit 2M views on Youtube within the first 24 hours of its upload!

EDIT - And now it has!

 

[HarryUK]

Belgium isn't real

Alright Farage cool it

 

[HarryUK]

I am all in favour of Eurovision returning to the Emerald isle but for the love of god please not Dublin. I go away to escape London and our rip off prices thanks

 

[soulm8]

She was for sure top 2 yesterday. Everyone is talking about her and The Croatian lasagna ! Love it!

 

[MAD20]

What an incredible performance, probably one of the best of the night. Super deserved qualification and brilliant work from the Irish delegation. Hope they keep up with this trend cause if so, another victory could even be on the way in the near future. Congratulations Ireland!!

 

[SpiritofKeiino]

We're first half - I hope we get a slot between 11 and 13.

 

[Cathan]

We're first half - I hope we get a slot between 11 and 13.

It's the sort of entry that will do what it's going to do regardless of its running order as its just so different and memorable. Just a shame we can get a 2nd half draw for a change.

The draw will depend on tomorrow as if Switzerland/Netherlands draw 1H Ireland might face competition for the best slot in the 1H!

 

[Sammy]

This is not a provocative question, and not intended to be offensive or anything, but I REALLY dont get this:

How can someone say about themself I‘m a witch (and Bambie says this regarding her own identity, not just the stage persona), a witch, who is clearly and without any doubt a female figure and has always been female to the point that it became an female archetype for a whole feminist movement, and at the same time also say about themself: I‘m non-binary?!
you can‘t be and at the same time not be something. That‘s completely illogical. I would get it if they defined themself as genderfluid but that’s not the case.

I get Nemo‘s non-binary being themself, but with Bambie I‘m honestly lost.

 

[MopManMoss]

This is not a provocative question, and not intended to be offensive or anything, but I REALLY dont get this:

How can someone say about themself I‘m a witch (and Bambie says this regarding her own identity, not just the stage persona), a witch, who is clearly and without any doubt a female figure and has always been female to the point that it became an female archetype for a whole feminist movement, and at the same time also say about themself: I‘m non-binary?!
you can‘t be and at the same time not be something. That‘s completely illogical. I would get it if they defined themself as genderfluid but that’s not the case.

I get Nemo‘s non-binary being themself, but with Bambie I‘m honestly lost.

Look I don't really get non binary myself I respect what these individuals claim they are and use their pronouns just because that's the polite thing to do

However I think you're just looking into something that's just not there? If a man does goth magic it doesn't become wizardcraft all of a sudden

Bambie is a witch, hell I can be a witch and I'm a dull straight man

 

[Milos-BC]

Among the best ones last night. Not a fan of the song (still) but the staging is out of this world.

Without a doubt, deserves a top 10 in the final and it will be there.

 

[Sean]

I am all in favour of Eurovision returning to the Emerald isle but for the love of god please not Dublin. I go away to escape London and our rip off prices thanks

I don't think there's a city other than Dublin that could meet the demands of a modern Eurovision?

 

[Sammy]

Look I don't really get non binary myself I respect what these individuals claim they are and use their pronouns just because that's the polite thing to do

However I think you're just looking into something that's just not there? If a man does goth magic it doesn't become wizardcraft all of a sudden

Bambie is a witch, hell I can be a witch and I'm a dull straight man

I don‘t think that trying to understand something excludes being respectful.

You would be a wizard or a sorcerer if you practice witchcraft. A witch is genuinly female.

I could also understand if Bambie said: I‘m a sorcerer because I identify as such. Or: I‘m non binary, but my stage persona is a woman.
But what puzzles me is that they - as far as I‘m aware of - identifies as two opposite concepts at the same time and that is just not possible. Thay are not Schrödingers cat.

And that is not trivial because if I call Bambie „they“, then I‘m denying their self proclaimed witchness - thus misgendering them.

If I accept her „witchness“ and call her „she“, I’m misgendering her again, because I would leave out her non-binary being.

You see? Even within the logic of Non-conformative genderroles there still HAS to be logic. Otherwise I cant talk about this person at all, even if I want to.

 

[MopManMoss]

I don't think there's a city other than Dublin that could meet the demands of a modern Eurovision?

We are going back to millstreet lads, osterdahl can stay at home

I don‘t think that trying to understand something excludes being respectful.

You would be a wizard or a sorcerer if you practice witchcraft. A witch is genuinly female.

I could also understand if Bambie said: I‘m a sorcerer because I identify as such. Or: I‘m non binary, but my stage persona is a woman.
But what puzzles me is that they - as far as I‘m aware of - identifies as two opposite concepts at the same time and that is just not possible. Thay are not Schrödingers cat.

And that is not trivial because if I call Bambie „they“, then I‘m denying their self proclaimed witchness - thus misgendering them.

If I accept her „witchness“ and call her „she“, I’m misgendering her again, because I would leave out her non-binary being.

You see? Even within the logic of Non-conformative genderroles there still HAS to be logic. Otherwise I cant talk about this person at all, even if I want to.

A witch is just someone that practices witchcraft (malicious or hostile magic) yes the stereotype and general perception of witches is overwhelmingly female but it's not exclusively a thing for women nor is it especially feminine in any way