94ayd
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Re: Iceland 2011 - Sjonni Brink's friends - Aftur heim
Does that make them any better?
Does that make them any better?
ICELAND 2011 - Sjonni Brink's friends - Coming Home
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Re: Iceland 2011 - Sjonni Brink's friends - Aftur heim
This! I agree with everything you just said!
FallenAngelII
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It's not like the Icelandic aren't used to it. Iceland hasn't had its entry performed in English since 1997, when Paul Oscar staged a BDSM orgy on stage (yes, Iceland has performed in English ever since 1999, when the rule that each country could perform in any language it wishes to perform it was instated). I guess every artist since 1999 is a bitch by your standards.
No, but it shows a trend. And how out of line you are for calling Yohanna a bitch simply because she wants to translate her song into English. You're not even Icelandic. What right do you have to be pissed that Yohanna didn't intend to perform her entry in Icelandic had it won the Icelandic national final?Does that make them any better?
It's not like the Icelandic aren't used to it. Iceland hasn't had its entry performed in English since 1997, when Paul Oscar staged a BDSM orgy on stage (yes, Iceland has performed in English ever since 1999, when the rule that each country could perform in any language it wishes to perform it was instated). I guess every artist since 1999 is a bitch by your standards.
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Don't like that my country choice this song because of sympathy and I find it was wrong decision for RUV to allow it to take part in the contest after the death of the composer/performer. It could have been performed as a tribute on the final night but it was really unfair for other contestants that it was part of the voting competition.
The discussion here in Iceland about the song and the national final has been really strange and skewed because of these unfortunate circumstances.
I hope though that it will do good in Germany but I'm not optimistic!
Don't like that my country choice this song because of sympathy and I find it was wrong decision for RUV to allow it to take part in the contest after the death of the composer/performer. It could have been performed as a tribute on the final night but it was really unfair for other contestants that it was part of the voting competition.
The discussion here in Iceland about the song and the national final has been really strange and skewed because of these unfortunate circumstances.
I hope though that it will do good in Germany but I'm not optimistic!
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Pretty poor, 1 point. Sadly Iceland has broken its great run of entries 2006, 7, 8, 9 and 10.
Pretty poor, 1 point. Sadly Iceland has broken its great run of entries 2006, 7, 8, 9 and 10
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Re: Iceland 2011 - Sjonni Brink's friends - Aftur heim
Aftur Heim actually topped the icelandic charts so maybe they actually voted for their favorite song afterall? Although Sjonni Brink's version is at number 1...not the version of his friends.
Aftur Heim actually topped the icelandic charts so maybe they actually voted for their favorite song afterall? Although Sjonni Brink's version is at number 1...not the version of his friends.
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The organisation of the Icelandic national selection for Eurovision 2011, Söngvakeppni Sjónvarpsins, has informed esctoday.com that Sjonni's friends won the competition with more than 25% of the votes cast (exactly 26.33%). Second was Magni Ásgeirsson with 19%.
A total of 96,651 votes were cast in order to select the Icelandic representative in Eurovision 2011. There was a limit of 20 votes for each phone number.
Sjonni's friends, the group that eventually won the competition with the song Aftur heim by Sigurjón Brink, picked a total of 25,449 votes, which makes 26.33%. Magni Ásgeirsson, runner up, got 18.506 (19.15%).
RÚV has informed esctoday.com that the other songs' scores will remain confidential.
The organisation of the Icelandic national selection for Eurovision 2011, Söngvakeppni Sjónvarpsins, has informed esctoday.com that Sjonni's friends won the competition with more than 25% of the votes cast (exactly 26.33%). Second was Magni Ásgeirsson with 19%.
A total of 96,651 votes were cast in order to select the Icelandic representative in Eurovision 2011. There was a limit of 20 votes for each phone number.
Sjonni's friends, the group that eventually won the competition with the song Aftur heim by Sigurjón Brink, picked a total of 25,449 votes, which makes 26.33%. Magni Ásgeirsson, runner up, got 18.506 (19.15%).
RÚV has informed esctoday.com that the other songs' scores will remain confidential.
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Confidential? Now that sounds fishy to me.
Confidential? Now that sounds fishy to me.
evilperson
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^They actually rarely ever reveal the full result.
^They actually rarely ever reveal the full result.
94ayd
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Re: Iceland 2011 - Sjonni Brink's friends - Aftur heim
Well, excuse me, but why would you write a song in ENGLISH, perform it in ICELANDIC in the NF and then perform it in ENGLISH in ESC. Is that fair to the voters and does it even make any sense in the first place? I understand if it was written in English and she performed it in English and it still won but this... And why do people not want to take a risk and break the mould? It'd be more interesting and I'm sure it'd help the song to be remembered. Icelandic people are afarid or ashamed I don't know, or just most of the (good) songs in their selections have been in English. I don't appreciate losing the identity of a nation.
Well, excuse me, but why would you write a song in ENGLISH, perform it in ICELANDIC in the NF and then perform it in ENGLISH in ESC. Is that fair to the voters and does it even make any sense in the first place? I understand if it was written in English and she performed it in English and it still won but this... And why do people not want to take a risk and break the mould? It'd be more interesting and I'm sure it'd help the song to be remembered. Icelandic people are afarid or ashamed I don't know, or just most of the (good) songs in their selections have been in English. I don't appreciate losing the identity of a nation.
evilperson
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^The song was originally in English and then translated to Icelandic because of the rules of the NF which also permitted that the winning song could be translated to English for ESC.
^The song was originally in English and then translated to Icelandic because of the rules of the NF which also permitted that the winning song could be translated to English for ESC.
94ayd
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Re: Iceland 2011 - Sjonni Brink's friends - Aftur heim
Well, I think she shouldn't have entered at all, then. The NF's rules aren't fair, either, it seems.
Well, I think she shouldn't have entered at all, then. The NF's rules aren't fair, either, it seems.
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Re: ICELAND 2011 - Sjonni Brink's friends - Aftur heim
Im still how this won over Yohanna!! 
Im still
how this won over Yohanna!!
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Well, neither should Brink, since his entries the year before were in English as well and there is little doubt that he would have performed Aftur Heim in English had he won in happier circumstances. It probably will be Back Home in DDorf, anyway.
I do hope you realised when you were calling Johanna an "anglophone bitch" that you, yourself were posting in English on an "anglophone" forum. Perhaps, this forum is not for you, either. We would not want you to lose your identity.
Well, I think she shouldn't have entered at all, then. The NF's rules aren't fair, either, it seems.
Well, neither should Brink, since his entries the year before were in English as well and there is little doubt that he would have performed Aftur Heim in English had he won in happier circumstances. It probably will be Back Home in DDorf, anyway.
I do hope you realised when you were calling Johanna an "anglophone bitch" that you, yourself were posting in English on an "anglophone" forum. Perhaps, this forum is not for you, either. We would not want you to lose your identity.
evilperson
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People really need to get over the whole language of the songs deal. Everyone knows that since 1999 broadcasters and artists have the ability to choose to sing in whatever language they want and yeah most countries go for English. Sure it might seem unfair that the public voted for a song in a certain language and then it goes ahead to be translated, but this isn't the first time something like this has happened.
People really need to get over the whole language of the songs deal. Everyone knows that since 1999 broadcasters and artists have the ability to choose to sing in whatever language they want and yeah most countries go for English. Sure it might seem unfair that the public voted for a song in a certain language and then it goes ahead to be translated, but this isn't the first time something like this has happened.
FallenAngelII
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Why were they even allowed to compete? After all, they were not the original performer. Usually, when a performer cannot perform their entry, be it for whatever reason, that entry is disqualified. RUV lost a lot of credibility there.
And you don't think that there are people buying the single out of sympathy as well? Also, the fact that Sjonni Brink's is the one topping the chart should tell you something.
evilperson
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^Get over it, this is the song representing Iceland regardless of what circumstances preceded its selection.
^Get over it, this is the song representing Iceland regardless of what circumstances preceded its selection.
FallenAngelII
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Also, lots of people do this. Carola did it with "Evighet" in 2006 (which explains the hammy Swedish lyrics). It's no less of a "fraud" than writing a song in your native tongue with every intention to translate it into English should it win the national final (which many, many, many countries do. Noticeably, again, Sweden).
Also, how does this give you the right to call Yohanna a bitch?
Also, again, how does that justify you calling Yohanna a bitch? You love songs in each nation's native language? Fine. Some don't. Some don't care. Some prefer to actually understand the lyrics. Some wish to maximize their chances at Eurovision. You have no right to call someone a bitch for any of those "crimes".
And your intolerance for anglophones is disturbing. English is my 3rd language, yet it's the language I'm most proficient in. I guess I'm just a bitch for forsaking my heritage (Vietnamese by birth, Swedish by residence since age 6)!
This is another case altogether. You originally called Yohanna a bitch because she said she's translate the song into English for Eurovision, not that she originally wrote it in English, then translated it into Icelandic for the national final.
Also, lots of people do this. Carola did it with "Evighet" in 2006 (which explains the hammy Swedish lyrics). It's no less of a "fraud" than writing a song in your native tongue with every intention to translate it into English should it win the national final (which many, many, many countries do. Noticeably, again, Sweden).
Would it be remembered? Possibly. Would it stand a good chance at winning? Doubtful. Icelandic is spoken by very few people outside of Iceland. The language barrier would handicap the song. It's better to be remembered for winning or finishing in the Top 10 than to be remembered as an also-ran which performed in their native language.
Also, how does this give you the right to call Yohanna a bitch?
So... the Norwegians are as well (they've only performed once in Norwegian as of late, and it failed to qualify for the final)? Sweden? Denmark? Ireland (a noticeably lack of songs performed in Irish)? Germany as of late? Holland (until last year)? Russia? The Ukraine (which has never entered the contest with an entry in Ukranian)? The list goes on and on.Icelandic people are afarid or ashamed I don't know, or just most of the (good) songs in their selections have been in English. I don't appreciate losing the identity of a nation.
Also, again, how does that justify you calling Yohanna a bitch? You love songs in each nation's native language? Fine. Some don't. Some don't care. Some prefer to actually understand the lyrics. Some wish to maximize their chances at Eurovision. You have no right to call someone a bitch for any of those "crimes".
Why were they even allowed to compete? After all, they were not the original performer. Usually, when a performer cannot perform their entry, be it for whatever reason, that entry is disqualified. RUV lost a lot of credibility there.
And you don't think that there are people buying the single out of sympathy as well? Also, the fact that Sjonni Brink's is the one topping the chart should tell you something.
That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard... this week (I'm a member of many forums full of people saying ridiculous things). Your obvious bias against Yohanna is evident.Well, I think she shouldn't have entered at all, then. The NF's rules aren't fair, either, it seems.
And your intolerance for anglophones is disturbing. English is my 3rd language, yet it's the language I'm most proficient in. I guess I'm just a bitch for forsaking my heritage (Vietnamese by birth, Swedish by residence since age 6)!
If they'd won through cheating, would you have said that same thing?
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