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Germany GERMANY 2024 - Isaak - Always on the Run
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And here's from FloIch will zum ESC - Songs:
"Walk You Home" by Bibiane Z
credits: Claudio Mikulski, Bibiane Zimmermann, Malou Beling, Sarah Joy Hartman, Matt Wolff, Toby Jacob
"Farben neuer Tage" by Luca M. Wefes
credits: Sebastian Bertram, Thomas Neuwirth, Lukas Klement, Luca M. Wefes
"Yellow Brick Road" by Anne Im
credits: Anne Im, Toby Whyle, Lukas Klement, Thomas Neuwirth, Sebastian Bertram
Bibiane has the only okay song. I am really really furious - why on earth are they doing IWZE when all we get are the same radio-friendly songs where we are safe at the bottom again??? We could have spared that. It's kindergarden. Really.My "Wildcard Ranking" [snippets]:
A huge pile of radio-friendly "mehs" and a few Italian screams.
Bibiane Z
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It's absolutely tragic - especially since NDR didn't let artists like Versengold compete (#1 album!).
At first, I was quite surprised since none of these songs were
or rejects but we basically just got "The Voice season 11" style songs - very formulaic and lazily-written. "Massenware" if you ask me.Bibiane Z is on par with most of our national final songs, though - but nothing to write home about.
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It's absolutely tragic - especially since NDR didn't let artists like Versengold compete (#1 album!).
At first, I was quite surprised since none of these songs were
Bibiane Z is on par with most of our national final songs, though - but nothing to write home about.
Well, LoTL were also on #1, didn´t help them either in the end.
Yeah I agree, Bibiane's song is the strongest... but still not strong.
They all sound very similar though, there's nothing outstanding or unique about these songs that you haven't heard already. Which isn't always necessary... but we've just heard it done so much better.
They really successfully sorted out the most interesting characters and then gave the last 4 the most typical NDR kind of songs and they thought it would do something in May? Gorl.
If they want to continue this format, they should just focus on the songwriting camp and make that bigger, like those that already happen across Europe. I mean "El Diablo" was written in a german songwriting camp, where are those kind of songs at?
They all sound very similar though, there's nothing outstanding or unique about these songs that you haven't heard already. Which isn't always necessary... but we've just heard it done so much better.
They really successfully sorted out the most interesting characters and then gave the last 4 the most typical NDR kind of songs and they thought it would do something in May? Gorl.
If they want to continue this format, they should just focus on the songwriting camp and make that bigger, like those that already happen across Europe. I mean "El Diablo" was written in a german songwriting camp, where are those kind of songs at?
If NDR wanted to give those artists a platform, it is okay - but the most interesting among them didn't make it to the final: Paul, Apollson or Beranger. They could have submitted something different, well - different than what NDR wanted apparently.It's absolutely tragic - especially since NDR didn't let artists like Versengold compete (#1 album!).
At first, I was quite surprised since none of these songs were
Bibiane Z is on par with most of our national final songs, though - but nothing to write home about.
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popularity =/= success at Eurovision
but at least, you create some buzz in Germany.
Personally, I prefer well-established acts and/or artists with authentic material instead of radio-friendly, formulaic tracks.
IF one of the most successful artists want to compete in your NF, you just give people the chance to vote for them - and don't come up with a wildcard round in which all four songs are bottom 5 material.
The artist(s) at Eurovision still "represent" us.
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Besides, Lord Of The Lost got the HIGHEST televoting points for Germany since 2018. It's our most successful entry in the last 5 years
Just saying
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popularity =/= success at Eurovision
but at least, you create some buzz in Germany.
Personally, I prefer well-established acts and/or artists with authentic material instead of radio-friendly, formulaic tracks.
IF one of the most successful artists want to compete in your NF, you just give people the chance to vote for them - and don't come up with a wildcard round in which all four songs are bottom 5 material.
The artist(s) at Eurovision still "represent" us.
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Besides, Lord Of The Lost got the HIGHEST televoting points for Germany since 2018. Just saying
Well, did LoTL really create buzz outside of the bubble?? I´m not sure about that.
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Yes, they did - I have posted several articles from alternative, metal, rock magazines, news outlets in last year's thread (tons of magazines, forums, web sites which usually don't cover and report on Eurovision at all).
Even the largest festivals in Germany like Wacken and Mera Luna posted about them and the national final.
Their album even re-entered the album charts at #2 after their Eurovision performance + re-release.
Lord of the Lost even met King Charles - This was not a Jendrik, Sister, Jamie-Lee scenario.
It was nice for a change to see our entry getting more recognition outside the ESC bubble and NDR/ARD.
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They very much did in the scene they're from. As a rock/metal/gothic person myself, there was actual talk about ESC/our NF that I normally never see. (It's also why I knew they'd kill the televote lol).
They probably didn't create buzz with the general public. But they absolutely brought more viewers then most other acts. They were also the first act since I can remember that many german ESC Fans respected, and they weren't treated as badly as Jendrik & Co even when they came last (they still got plenty of hate, but it's the internet...).
As for the Wildcard songs: nothing to say, forgot them 5 seconds later.
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It was still not that much compared to the Lena years, but don't know either if that's the most fair comparison.
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I think it takes a very rare phenomenon like Lena or an A-lister like Sarah Connor, Helene Fischer to create buzz amongst ordinary people but the amount of support and reports Lord of the Lost and the National Final/Eurovision got from people who never care about it or even watch it was INSANE last year.
I was shocked when Metal Hammer, Sonic Seducer (biggest media outlets of metal/rock) and even the official accounts of Wacken and Mera Luna posted about it.
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We´re doomed anyway as long as NDR is in charge of the NF.
Sorry, usually I´m not that into "Galgenhumor".
Fantastic to hear that! I am older, but grew up with Metal/Rock!
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I think it takes a very rare phenomenon like Lena or an A-lister like Sarah Connor, Helene Fischer to create buzz amongst ordinary people but the amount of support and reports Lord of the Lost and the National Final/Eurovision got from people who never care about it or even watch it was INSANE last year.
I was shocked when Metal Hammer, Sonic Seducer (biggest media outlets of metal/rock) and even the official accounts of Wacken and Mera Luna posted about it.
Same! And it even stuck a little for this year: I've seen people check out our NF selection that never cared for ESC before. It, ehm... let to a lot of disappointment that Versengold, Vinta, From Fall To Spring ect. aren't there, but that's not LOTLs fault