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I just googled it, numbers in :at: for 01/2024. And I think these are just the people without :at: citizenship. So there are even more with :hr: roots.

Deutschland232.786
Rumänien153.363
Türkei124.086
Serbien122.325
Ungarn107.347
Kroatien106.699
Bosnien und Herzegowina99.82
 

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Yes. Is it not trending in :de:? There are many :hr: too. But in general I think it’s not just the diaspora, the song just seems very popular. I watched the first bit of the SF yesterday with some non-Eurovision friends and all of them enjoyed :hr:, both boys and girls.

It is trending, also pretty high as it seems. And yes, there´s a big community here as well, especially in Munich.
 
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Pre 2018 Youtube Views were a much better indicator. Since entries started trending it got much more difficult to draw conclusions. Especially entries with big diasporas often get pushed, especially once they stand out or are hyped.

Just throwing out the views for semi 2 in 2019 on the day of the final:
Sergey Lazarev 3,6 mio views - 133,3k likes
Duncan Laurence 1,8 mio views - 47,6k likes
Luca Hänni 1,2 mio views - 30,7k likes
Chingiz 776k views - 30k likes
Michela 643k views - 12,4k likes
KEiiNO 636k views - 17,5k likes
Jonida Maliqi 610k views - 16,3k likes
Tamara Todevska 566k views - 13,8k likes
John Lundvik 506k views - 10,1k likes

KEiiNO won the televote by 30 points margin. In the final they won the televote again. Nothing in these stats suggested this would happen.
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I just googled it, numbers in :at: for 01/2024. And I think these are just the people without :at: citizenship. So there are even more with :hr: roots.

Deutschland232.786
Rumänien153.363
Türkei124.086
Serbien122.325
Ungarn107.347
Kroatien106.699
Bosnien und Herzegowina99.82
That number surprised me, but it's possible it got bigger in the last 4 years. Austria was the only EU member that kept borders closed for Croatian workers for 7 years, till 2020.
It's pretty close to a big part of Croatia, so it's possible more people go there now.
Personally, I also don't know a lot of people who work/live in Austria, don't know a single family that moved there, while I know a lot that moved to Germany.
 

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That number surprised me, but it's possible it got bigger in the last 4 years. Austria was the only EU member that kept borders closed for Croatian workers for 7 years, till 2020.
It's pretty close to a big part of Croatia, so it's possible more people go there now.
Personally, I also don't know a lot of people who work/live in Austria, don't know a single family that moved there, while I know a lot that moved to Germany.

I read German is also a pretty common foreign language in :hr:, not just in the tourist areas on the coast but in general.
 

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That number surprised me, but it's possible it got bigger in the last 4 years. Austria was the only EU member that kept borders closed for Croatian workers for 7 years, till 2020.
It's pretty close to a big part of Croatia, so it's possible more people go there now.
Personally, I also don't know a lot of people who work/live in Austria, don't know a single family that moved there, while I know a lot that moved to Germany.
I mean so many families came from :hr: to :at: in the 90s. And also already before the war for work. In my school in the countryside we actually didn’t really have students with foreign roots, with the exception of :hr:. We had a couple of them and in the bigger cities it’s obviously way more. (I’m 28 btw)
 

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Pure domination. I love the energy, the charisma......everything. Everything that was already iconic on Dora was now just lifted to a whole new level. And he is vocally much better as well

I think :hr: has the highest chances to "take it all". In :rs: , there is a huge euphoria around Lasagna and many feel like he is representing us as well.

Zagreb is a great destination for ESC and it would also be a perfect opportunity for me (and my nicer half xheart ) to visit :hr: personally for the first time if opportunity allows.
 

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I really love the way he is getting bigger favorite with every day. Watched some of the Swiss performance, I can say I’m confident we will have a Balkan winner.
 

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I read German is also a pretty common foreign language in :hr:, not just in the tourist areas on the coast but in general.
Especially not in the south, it's much more common in the North.
So, elementary school is 8 years here (highschools are not important, because every type has different subjects and number of foreign languages) and kids learn first foreign language, which is obligatory, from 1st grade. In 4th grade they get second foreign language, but it's not obligatory. While kids in south often also learn Italian as the second one, kids in North mostly learn German.
Sometimes German is also first foreign language and English second. In schools in my town one half of students learn English as first, other half German. In one town near me whole school learn German as first (that's pretty rare).
In 3-4 years second foreign language from 4th grade is also going to be obligatory.

I just googled and 10% of kids learn German as first foreign language.
 

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Especially not in the south, it's much more common in the North.
So, elementary school is 8 years here (highschools are not important, because every type has different subjects and number of foreign languages) and kids learn first foreign language, which is obligatory, from 1st grade. In 4th grade they get second foreign language, but it's not obligatory. While kids in south often learn Italian as the second one, kids in North mosly learn German.
Sometimes German is also first foreign language and English second. In schools in my town one half of students learn English as first, other half German. In one town near me whole school learn German as first (that's pretty rare).
In 3-4 years second foreign language from 4th grade is also going to be obligatory.

Would you say German is more common among the "older" generations, like 45+??

I remember when I was on holiday there I watched a bit of tv in the afternoon after coming back from the beach and then I saw a German tv series on a local channel, with subtitles in Croatian. That also helps a lot learning a language.
 

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Would you say German is more common among the "older" generations, like 45+??

I remember when I was on holiday there I watched a bit of tv in the afternoon after coming back from the beach and then I saw a German tv series on a local channel, with subtitles in Croatian. That also helps a lot learning a language.
Maybe, because they learned just one foreign language and often couldn't choose. There was not so much English in schools back then, but it wasn't non existent. My mum in the 70's learned German in school, her older brother English, my dad English.

It should be more common now when kids have an opportunity to learn two languages. Why a lot of them opt not to do so is a long discussion.

Subtitles help, but there's not that much German TV series and movies on TV. But I'm sure it helps a lot with English.
 

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This sounds like such a rip-off of Finland 2023 Cha Cha Cha, but with cheesy lyrics.

Of course now the juries have wisened up and will score it higher because people liked Finland, so let's see if the betting odds are right that it will win.
 

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