Croatia CROATIA 2016 - Nina Kraljić - Lighthouse
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PamSwynford
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LOL. I'm not so sure how the ESC commitee will help me, but ok. Anyway, HRT didn't answered my mail for almost two week, probably because I've sended it from my business mail, not personal. Very rude attitude and very indicative, if you ask me.
At this point, I only go to this thread to see email updates between Pam and HRT officials
[MENTION=13021]PamSwynford[/MENTION], since you seem to work for the media, can you spearhead the ESC committee for the upcoming year? If the current heads don't care about ESC, then you can come in and head the ESC committee. Everyone at ESCUnited will back you up
LOL. I'm not so sure how the ESC commitee will help me, but ok. Anyway, HRT didn't answered my mail for almost two week, probably because I've sended it from my business mail, not personal. Very rude attitude and very indicative, if you ask me.
Yazy
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Pam, the number one negotiator!
Representing us; the dissapointed esc fans, in fight against HRT regime.
On the serious note tho, has there been a petition about our return? That would be an interesting idea if it hasn´t been tried yet.
Pam, the number one negotiator!
Representing us; the dissapointed esc fans, in fight against HRT regime.
On the serious note tho, has there been a petition about our return? That would be an interesting idea if it hasn´t been tried yet.
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Petitions.
I can't tell you how many we've had in the UK to get a decent entry. You can see how well they worked. XD
Pam, the number one negotiator!
Representing us; the dissapointed esc fans, in fight against HRT regime.
On the serious note tho, has there been a petition about our return? That would be an interesting idea if it hasn´t been tried yet.
Petitions.
I can't tell you how many we've had in the UK to get a decent entry. You can see how well they worked. XDYazy
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Anything is better than this "waiting for nothing".
If nothing else, maybe at least they will respond sooner. Its not always a bad idea to be a nuisance.
And that is why I want to hear their "no" right now, instead of waiting for it at the beginning of next year.
Petitions.
Anything is better than this "waiting for nothing".
If nothing else, maybe at least they will respond sooner. Its not always a bad idea to be a nuisance.
And that is why I want to hear their "no" right now, instead of waiting for it at the beginning of next year.
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I can understand your frustration, but unless a petition gets thousands of signatures it will go nowhere and achieve nothing.
I can understand your frustration, but unless a petition gets thousands of signatures it will go nowhere and achieve nothing.
Yazy
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I´m not really frustrated anymore (I was few years back, but now we all cooled down).
It doesn´t even have to be a petition, but some sort of pressure needs to be applied, or they will just keep doing what they want.
EDIT: It´s not even our absence that bugs me, but simply HRT in general.
I´m not really frustrated anymore (I was few years back, but now we all cooled down).
It doesn´t even have to be a petition, but some sort of pressure needs to be applied, or they will just keep doing what they want.
EDIT: It´s not even our absence that bugs me, but simply HRT in general.
r3gg13
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Timely: Hopefully Bosnia's prelim confirmation can influence HRT's decision
Timely: Hopefully Bosnia's prelim confirmation can influence HRT's decision
PamSwynford
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I remember that OGAE Croatia wrote an open letter to HRT when they decided to withdraw, but they are so unorganized and lazy. They didn't touch their FB page for almost 9 month, and their webpage is the same for... 2 years almost? Anyway, the Serbian OGAE is much more active.
I remember that OGAE Croatia wrote an open letter to HRT when they decided to withdraw, but they are so unorganized and lazy. They didn't touch their FB page for almost 9 month, and their webpage is the same for... 2 years almost? Anyway, the Serbian OGAE is much more active.
Hele.
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At HRT forum I suggest to write to our president, Mrs. Kolinda Grabar-Kitarovic! I think some probably will think I'm crazy, but there is chance this woman will react to this because she reacted on less important things on our "estrada" sky. One member will start to write letter to her and I will help him to emphasize:
- importance for one nation to be part of eurovision
- importance for Croatia (to be part of esc) - as we are small nation, it is important for us for several reasons (we are also touristic nation so promotion and visibility we get with this for example is just one of reasons)
- importance of supporting young and talented musicans
- criticism of our all relevant musicans
- possibility to have positive economic impacts (which is emphasized by Ksenija Urlicic, who is member of same politician party as Kolinda)
- that negative attitude of our publicity is because of bad results (which are effect of bad team - we had great team which head was Ksenija Urlicic and that made all our best results at eurovision)
- while Croatia had success at esc, it had positive publicity
I know some people might think I'm crazy, but believe me, in contest of Croatia, maybe this is really only way to resolve this while some (2) crucial individuals avert any possibility and any opposite (positive) opinion (when it comes from HRT) toward esc. In contest of Croatia it is important to know that our president (at the moment she is not member of any party as president of all people) is (so was) member of opposite political party than head of HRT (who is on that position because of...politics of course).
I want to emphasize that my PERSONAL opinion is NOT to entwine politics into music!
But for example, [MENTION=12078]AshleyWright[/MENTION], petition in Croatia never would be success because esc fans here are in lesser part. When it was esc some portals asked question: Are you sad because there is no Croatia at esc? And "no" was like 60-80 %(depend on which portal). But that's the actually point of "political" reaction. To emphasize importance of eurovoision (for whole nation) and to try to get positive PR to esc in Croatia again...when things start to resolve on positive way!
Because if Croatia is not any other way to start to get things to get better...yeah...then write that statement to our president!
As for timing, I think it is best to send that statement when we announce non participation. So, if things get public discussion and our president makes pressure to participate, maybe EBU let us to confirm participation before final deadline in October.
At HRT forum I suggest to write to our president, Mrs. Kolinda Grabar-Kitarovic! I think some probably will think I'm crazy, but there is chance this woman will react to this because she reacted on less important things on our "estrada" sky. One member will start to write letter to her and I will help him to emphasize:
- importance for one nation to be part of eurovision
- importance for Croatia (to be part of esc) - as we are small nation, it is important for us for several reasons (we are also touristic nation so promotion and visibility we get with this for example is just one of reasons)
- importance of supporting young and talented musicans
- criticism of our all relevant musicans
- possibility to have positive economic impacts (which is emphasized by Ksenija Urlicic, who is member of same politician party as Kolinda)
- that negative attitude of our publicity is because of bad results (which are effect of bad team - we had great team which head was Ksenija Urlicic and that made all our best results at eurovision)
- while Croatia had success at esc, it had positive publicity
I know some people might think I'm crazy, but believe me, in contest of Croatia, maybe this is really only way to resolve this while some (2) crucial individuals avert any possibility and any opposite (positive) opinion (when it comes from HRT) toward esc. In contest of Croatia it is important to know that our president (at the moment she is not member of any party as president of all people) is (so was) member of opposite political party than head of HRT (who is on that position because of...politics of course).
I want to emphasize that my PERSONAL opinion is NOT to entwine politics into music!
But for example, [MENTION=12078]AshleyWright[/MENTION], petition in Croatia never would be success because esc fans here are in lesser part. When it was esc some portals asked question: Are you sad because there is no Croatia at esc? And "no" was like 60-80 %(depend on which portal). But that's the actually point of "political" reaction. To emphasize importance of eurovoision (for whole nation) and to try to get positive PR to esc in Croatia again...when things start to resolve on positive way!
Because if Croatia is not any other way to start to get things to get better...yeah...then write that statement to our president!
As for timing, I think it is best to send that statement when we announce non participation. So, if things get public discussion and our president makes pressure to participate, maybe EBU let us to confirm participation before final deadline in October.
PamSwynford
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Kolinda can't take care even for our state, I doubt she would intervent for Eurovision. A dumb-ass HDZ member that left the position of our ambassador in USA to be a vicevicevicevicevicevicesecretary and left the Croatian embassy without a boss for over nine months.
Kolinda can't take care even for our state, I doubt she would intervent for Eurovision. A dumb-ass HDZ member that left the position of our ambassador in USA to be a vicevicevicevicevicevicesecretary and left the Croatian embassy without a boss for over nine months.
Hele.
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I do not have high expectations but I believe she could react (as she reacted to Nives Celzius and Marko Tomasovic for example) and especially because she and Radman are political opponents. :twisted:
Anyway, I know my suggestion is reaction of desperate person, but I really want something to try to get back Croatia at esc.
I do not have high expectations but I believe she could react (as she reacted to Nives Celzius and Marko Tomasovic for example) and especially because she and Radman are political opponents. :twisted:
Anyway, I know my suggestion is reaction of desperate person, but I really want something to try to get back Croatia at esc.
lavieenrose
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Noooooooo the Nina Kraljić Hype Train needs to crash when she releases her peace ballad "What If a Million Voices Shine,"* not when Croatia withdraws!
*Obviously, I'd much prefer if that never happened.
On 17th of September tha croatian national broadcaster will announce the withdrawal of the country for another year.
Noooooooo the Nina Kraljić Hype Train needs to crash when she releases her peace ballad "What If a Million Voices Shine,"* not when Croatia withdraws!
*Obviously, I'd much prefer if that never happened.
Yazy
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Hele.
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For me...what I sleep always happen in my life! But...in real life it always get opposite of what I sleep! But it doesn't need to be the same with you...I wish I dreamed this dream...so, that would be good sign
On 17th of September tha croatian national broadcaster will announce the withdrawal of the country for another year.
For me...what I sleep always happen in my life! But...in real life it always get opposite of what I sleep! But it doesn't need to be the same with you...I wish I dreamed this dream...so, that would be good sign
PamSwynford
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Hey everyone, sorry I wasn't on this forum for a long time, but I didn't had news until this morning. HRT finally e-mailed me back and they've said they still didn't made a decision.
Hey everyone, sorry I wasn't on this forum for a long time, but I didn't had news until this morning. HRT finally e-mailed me back and they've said they still didn't made a decision.
