Creating new contests on the forum

[Grinch]

Re: Creating new contest on the forum

Languages like English,Spanish will always win since there are small number of awesome songs in some other languages.

We shouldn't include English in this contest imo.

 

[daniels1000]

Re: Creating new contest on the forum

a) I don't get your explanation - the biggest music industries come from USA, Spain, France, etc. It's only natural that people will choose those countries, because of the biggest variety.
b) :? Songs are SUNG in a language. Saying that music has nothing to do with language is bulls**t
c) You're kidding me again - there are probably man awesome songs in other languages, we just don't know them yet. If someone decides to send an entry in such a language, it may be liked by many people.

c) There is also some awesome songs from other countries,but we just don't know them yet.

And if somebody who wanted to send song for Uzbek language,it can also send it for Uzbekistan.

 

[Hele.]

Re: Creating new contest on the forum

I think explanations are very important,and all members can write them.

My explanation why NOT to have Language contest are :

a) Some juries like Spanish, Portuguese, English will be too overcrowded (for example English is official in 54 countries and Spain in 21).
b) Languages like English,Spanish have more chances of winning since there are small number of hits in some other languages and they have available all biggest hits (for example USA, UK and Australia would be in one jury).
c) Any song in any language can be also sent for that country (for example what changes if song is sent for Croatian language or Croatia?) .
d) More countries getting chances to participate (For example Mexico, Argentina, Spain, etc. should all participate for Spain and on this way they can participate independently).
e) Possible waiting of members who want to play for their country to get their turn (for example someone from Ireland wants to send song in English. He has to compete in the same NF with USA, UK, Australia, etc. competitors and is very probably that will lose NF and will have to wait until next opportunity)
f) With more countries participating we have more chances to discover more good songs (already mentioned that two biggest languages are official at 75 countries at all!)
g) Also, with more countries participating, players that would be in overcrowded juries will get bigger chances to show their music style and share it with others.
h) Language has nothing to do with music.

I will write more later . I can't recall all of them atm.

I added some more and slightly changed one.

 

[daniels1000]

Re: Creating new contest on the forum

We shouldn't include English in this contest imo.

And then we are again forgetting the main rule of this game : Every member can participate for which country/language he/she wants.

 

[AdelAdel]

Re: Creating new contest on the forum

c) There is also some awesome songs from other countries,but we just don't know them yet.

And if somebody who wanted to send song for Uzbek language,it can also send it for Uzbekistan.

What's obvious is obvious, I doubt that you'll find an Uzbek song NOT from Uzbekistan.

 

[dogmeat]

Re: Creating new contest on the forum

One more thing: why would the english jury be overcrowded? Personally, i would find joining it kinda boring, uncreative, and against the purpose of the concept.

Also, to counter the "a Mexican would have little chance to get his song representing the Spanish jury" argument: similar thing can be said about a French speaking Canadian disadvantaged in a Canadian jury. Actually, anyone from a big jury would have low chance for his favorite to go through, no matter what concept we decide on.

 

[daniels1000]

Re: Creating new contest on the forum

I added some more and slightly changed one.

That's what I couldn't recall before.

e) For English language,we will always have American/Canadian or English song,and we will never have Irish,for sure.


And I can't agree with more with you really

 

[daniels1000]

Re: Creating new contest on the forum

One more thing: why would the english jury be overcrowded? Personally, i would find joining it kinda boring, uncreative, and against the purpose of the concept.

Also, to counter the "a Mexican would have little chance to get his song representing the Spanish jury" argument: similar thing can be said about a French speaking Canadian disadvantaged in a Canadian jury. Actually, anyone from a big jury would have low chance for his favorite to go through, no matter what concept we decide on.

Main word here is "you".There is a lot of people on this forum.

 

[Trece]

Re: Creating new contest on the forum

One more thing: why would the english jury be overcrowded? Personally, i would find joining it kinda boring, uncreative, and against the purpose of the concept.

Also, to counter the "a Mexican would have little chance to get his song representing the Spanish jury" argument: similar thing can be said about a French speaking Canadian disadvantaged in a Canadian jury. Actually, anyone from a big jury would have low chance for his favorite to go through, no matter what concept we decide on.

Yes, but popular countries that can be chosen much more then languages.
For English: or 54 possibilities or 1.

 

[Grinch]

Re: Creating new contest on the forum

And then we are again forgetting the main rule of this game : Every member can participate for which country/language he/she wants.

Eh, ok then. But as dogmeat said, sending an English song to LSC would be boring.

 

[Trece]

Re: Creating new contest on the forum

Eh, ok then. But as dogmeat said, sending an English song to LSC would be boring.

Better not to send because it's boring, not because it is prohibited.

 

[doctormalisimo]

Re: Creating new contest on the forum

e) Possible waiting of members who want to play for their country to get their turn (for example someone from Ireland wants to send song in English. He has to compete in the same NF with USA, UK, Australia, etc. competitors and is very probably that will lose NF and will have to wait until next opportunity)

I assume that the language contest wont use juries, each language is represented by just one person. And anyone who chooses English anyway deserves to lose for being thoroughly unoriginal and boring.

g) Also, with more countries participating, players that would be in overcrowded juries will get bigger chances to show their music style and share it with others.

Well thats why we should have membership caps...

 

[Grinch]

Re: Creating new contest on the forum

How about one language for each edition in LSC? For example; first edition Spanish songs, then Uzbek songs etc.

 

[AdelAdel]

Re: Creating new contest on the forum

Are there any supporters of my 3 people per jury option? And rotating with others after 3 months?

 

[AdelAdel]

Re: Creating new contest on the forum

How about one language for each edition in LSC? For example; first edition Spanish songs, then Uzbek songs etc.

Nah, bad idea. If, let's say, 20 people want to complete, then they would have to find 20 Uzbek songs?

 

[daniels1000]

Re: Creating new contest on the forum

How about one language for each edition in LSC? For example; first edition Spanish songs, then Uzbek songs etc.

That's FSC spin-off then.

 

[Hele.]

Re: Creating new contest on the forum

Are you aware that the very same arguments can be said against countries-based contest?

a) some juries like USA, UK will be too overcrowded
b) country has nothing to do with music
c) countries like USA, UK will always win


oh well, others already said that

1) All that countries that would be in English language jury will be split on USA, UK, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, etc. and will be much less overcrowded than English jury.
2) Whatever, both options stand.
3) No, they have biggest music scene and have more chances to chose better song and do better. For example, USA is this year only country that in competition of 40 countries in FCS is almost always in top 10. They were 6/7 times. They also have most wins so far I think. But definitely in last year and half they are only with 3 wins! Which other country did that? Of course they will not always win or do well, but simply they have more chances comparing their music scene. And if you join USA, UK, etc. in big jury it really would be base for domination! While on this way that countries are competition to each other.

 

[Trece]

Re: Creating new contest on the forum

then they would have to find 20 Uzbek songs?

unreal 2

 

[daniels1000]

Re: Creating new contest on the forum

Are there any supporters of my 3 people per jury option? And rotating with others after 3 months?

NO ! This breaks main rule of this game : Every member can participate for any country.


You can't throw out some people.

 

[AdelAdel]

Re: Creating new contest on the forum

unreal 2

Exactly.