Creating new contests on the forum

[Trece]

Re: Creating new contest on the forum

In Mexico they speak also Spanish (with mexicanismos). I don't see why they should be considered as seperate languages. They have the same language. French in Belgium, France and Canada is also completely different with many dialect words. SO that shouldn't be a problem.

Music is different, Mexico + Spain = ROW as in FSC. Countries must be represented separatly

 

[seb89]

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Where I would find issues with the language rule is when we look at languages that are really similar like Bosnian/Serbian/Montenegrin/Croatian. Would they be grouped together?

I see David's concern as well, that if this were to happen, the English jury might be over bloated. That would bring us to another issue, how many people do you guys expect to have in a jury?

It's still considered as one language, if I'm not mistaken. Dutch & Afrikaans are for both speakers understandable but linguists consider them as two separate languages. So you can base the decision on linguistics .

 

[SpZ]

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Music is different, Mexico + Spain = ROW as in FSC. Countries must be represented separatly

You are totally taking the concept of language and trying to translate into the form of countries which you can not do. For example I would totally expect Romanian artists to be sent by the Spanish language jury from time to time. Your whole premise of the logic is that contest have to be country based while they obviously don't have to.

 

[Trece]

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If this contest were to happen, people will be representing languages rather than countries (well on the guise of countries). That's how I'm personally seeing it

We want to hear songs from different countries to get acquainted with their culture. But in the end we only have one song in Spanish in the competition, although many Spanish-speaking countries with different cultures.

 

[daniels1000]

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I'm totally AGAINST Language Song Contest.Music has nothing to do with language,and than English would be overcrowded.

About language rule,that every country MUST send entry in their native language,I'm also NOT for that rule,but I see majority is for that :?

 

[seb89]

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Music is different, Mexico + Spain = ROW as in FSC. Countries must be represented separatly

You can change every month. There is also Spanish pop and Spanish flamenco, Mexican pop, Mariachi, Mexican Rock, Spanish Celtic rock, etc. . But what will be the difference with FSC or NSC? Besides no RoW or WL.

 

[MyHeartIsYours]

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Yeah, FSC will be sticking around, no worries

Yes, you can participate in as many contests you like as long as you have time for it

Okay thanks
I wont be joining in but I was just wondering for any of my FSC team mates who may wish to join.

 

[AdelAdel]

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How about this?

In order for the juries to not be overcrowded, I'd suggest there is only 1 member per jury in every country.

 

[seb89]

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We want to hear songs from different countries to get acquainted with their culture. But in the end we only have one song in Spanish in the competition, although many Spanish-speaking countries with different cultures.

Spain itself has different cultures, so that would not be a valid argument for keeping the countries option. Thanks to the language option Catalan, Galician, Basque music can compete independently.

 

[Trece]

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You are totally taking the concept of language and trying to translate into the form of countries which you can not do. For example I would totally expect Romanian artists to be sent by the Spanish language jury from time to time. Your whole premise of the logic is that contest have to be country based while they obviously don't have to.

If we decide that a country can only send a song in their native language, then Romania will not be able to send a song in Spanish, so every time we hear a lot of songs in different languages ​​and many countries will participate.
Once again you want to unify the countries in the group as ROW in FSC. This should not be.

 

[Trece]

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Spain itself has different cultures, so that would not be a valid argument for keeping the countries option. Thanks to the language option Catalan, Galician, Basque music can compete independently.

By the way, I would like to offer the opportunity to represent the regions (England, Scotland, etc..)

 

[SpZ]

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If we decide that a country can only send a song in their native language, then Romania will not be able to send a song in Spanish, so every time we hear a lot of songs in different languages ​​and many countries will participate.
Once again you want to unify the countries in the group as ROW in FSC. This should not be.

No I do not want to unify countries at all and keep everything under languages. For example there would not be a "Spanish jury" there would be "Spanish language jury" so you are not merging them to any countries, you just base your whole logic on the concept of languages.
And obviously you would have no native language rule here as there would be no countries to begin with.

 

[seb89]

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If we decide that a country can only send a song in their native language, then Romania will not be able to send a song in Spanish, so every time we hear a lot of songs in different languages ​​and many countries will participate.
Once again you want to unify the countries in the group as ROW in FSC. This should not be.

If you're going to do this, 80% of Belgian music (=English) would be eligible anymore. I'm not in favor of this.

 

[Trece]

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"Spanish language jury"

I say it again: In Mexico, Argentina, Spain, Cuba, Peru, etc. speak Spanish, but in these countries, different cultures and different music. It is wrong to combine them into one group.

 

[SpZ]

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I say it again: In Mexico, Argentina, Spain, Cuba, Peru, etc. speak Spanish, but in these countries, different cultures and different music. It is wrong to combine them into one group.

And I again tell you that you do not get the idea that they are not combined into 1 group

 

[r3gg13]

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Ok, looks like we have a few candidates for the poll about "core concept" of the new contest

 

[r3gg13]

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Even if you have those different countries under the language jury, it doesn't mean that they are limited, you can represent the cultures of those countries that speak that language each and every edition. You can even represent any song from any country as long as the language is let's say Spanish.

 

[SpZ]

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And to make it even clear to Trece who seems to be confused here a lot, by languages at least I am talking about the language of the song, which has nothing to do with languages spoken in the country the artist comes from. (well there is some link, but it is not a defining link)

 

[seb89]

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Even if you have those different countries under the language jury, it doesn't mean that they are limited, you can represent the cultures of those countries that speak that language each and every edition. You can even represent any song from any country as long as the language is let's say Spanish.

Indeed. While a country+language rules excludes songs.

 

[Trece]

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And I again tell you that you do not get the idea that they are not combined into 1 group

Explain to me then.

I want to be a member of the Argentine jury and send Argentine song. After three months I will be a member of the Brazilian jury and send the Brazilian song. I will be able to do so? No, because Argentina is a member of the Spanish language and the likelihood of my songs will be very small. It will be the same situation as with the Rest of World, when due of the "Spanish" we will lose some countries.