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Mickey

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Serbia stopped sending ethno in 2011 after very poor jury treatments of their previous entries.

I already said that I didn't consider Ovo Je Balkan to be ethno. I think it's understandable when you consider my only previous exposure to Serbian ethno was Lane Moje, Molitva and Oro. The 2009 and 2010 entries were certainly very different to those. Perhaps the juries actually dislike shoe-based comedy and whatever Milan was.
 

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I already said that I didn't consider Ovo Je Balkan to be ethno. I think it's understandable when you consider my only previous exposure to Serbian ethno was Lane Moje, Molitva and Oro. The 2009 and 2010 entries were certainly very different to those. Perhaps the juries actually dislike shoe-based comedy and whatever Milan was.

Yap, then it cannot be something like this. The Englishman hath not heard it before. :lol:

I would say, especially Cipela is the 'most traditional' of them all. Molitva or Oro were quite close to French-styled ballads just with an ethnic arrangement and of course the Serbian language.
 
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Yap, then it cannot be something like this. The Englishman hath not heard it before. :lol:
I'm admitting my ignorance here. My exposure to this stuff is through eurovision alone.

That said, Milan's ability to hoodwink me into thinking his song sounded Western, suggests that other western voters could have been similarly ignorant of it's ethnoness. If it was in English I could have easily imagined someone like Mika singing it.

I don't think Love In Rewind is all that ethno either, with the possible exception of the notes at the start. I'm sure someone will tell me I'm wrong, but I think it's a very subjective discussion. It's massively difficult for me to decide whether juries like or dislike ethno, because it's harder still to definitively state which songs they're supposed to be undermarking. I doubt many of the jurors would know if they were undermarking ethno either.
 

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I already said that I didn't consider Ovo Je Balkan to be ethno.

Hmm.. "Ove Je Balkan" is as balkan it could get almost :lol:

The only more "balkanic" uptempo entries we got, that I can recall, were "Hora din Moldova" & "Marija Magdalena". "Cipela" was not that different from "Ove je balkan" in style, but the latter was better imo though.

Actually there weren't many balkan sounding uptempo stuff in ESC, but ballads we got plenty though.
 
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So-called authentic entries still can fare well with the audience though – the only entry in this year's final with dominating folklore parts placed 3rd – but since 90% of the songs sound 'American' they naturally are too on top positions.

"Popular" has dominating folklore parts? :eek: :lol:
 

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I dont either, I know that it would have a detrimental affect on viewers and popularity in the United Kingdom anyway!

I don't think that most people(other than us forum freaks) actually pay enough attention that they would even hear about the rule change before the contest that much, to have it have an effect on the number of people that watch the show.
 

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I don't think that most people(other than us forum freaks) actually pay enough attention that they would even hear about the rule change before the contest that much, to have it have an effect on the number of people that watch the show.
Yeh you're probably right tbh. I just think that the types of songs like 'Popular', 'Secret Combination', etc are popular here and they obviously wouldnt be allowed to be sung in English.
 

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Yeh you're probably right tbh. I just think that the types of songs like 'Popular', 'Secret Combination', etc are popular here and they obviously wouldnt be allowed to be sung in English.

I guarantee you that neither of those songs would have gotten third places had they been sung in their native languages. :p
 

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I dont either, I know that it would have a detrimental affect on viewers and popularity in the United Kingdom anyway!

So what? Like I said before, English isn`t the only language in the world and UK isn`t the only country in Europe.
How much do you think that a person from Ukraine understands the 99% english songs that are performed on ESC?

The % of this years song, performed on native language on the final is extremly low and that is a disaster.
 

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The BBC are never leaving the contest. A return of the language rule would have no impact in that regard.

I do however think it could cause the ratings to drop a little in this country. I don't think Adam was trying to suggest that UK ratings were more important than anywhere else. We just can't easily comment on the taste of others.
 

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The same applies to Germany. The viewing figures were incredibly low back in the day but once the language rule was abolished, it steadily climbed as it appeals to the younger generation which is an important factor. So bringing back the language rule would have probably a negative impact.
 
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