They should do this.
Bringing back the language rule!
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They should do this.
nikolay_BG
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Yeah, but without humiliating everyone and everything that isn`t british, right?
Mickey
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Don't remember anyone saying that first comment. I think "Jedward's mum" might have been a twitter comment that was read on air about Aurela Gace? It was a comment about her hair. So what?
I don't think people need their opinions formed for them either, nor do I think they actually are. I don't think people are that influenced by frivolous jokes.
There is a practical element to an English language commentator, if only to explain the UK-specific elements of the phone vote. It's also nice to have someone say "Now it's time for France," rather than having to read the bit at the bottom of the screen. Without a commentator we'd also miss out on biographical details. Casual fans would spend all of Germany's performance asking each other if that's the same girl from last year. Not everyone knows that Dino Merlin is a star in the Balkans or that the Romanian singer was English.
I agree with you, but what's that got to do with anything?
MyHeartIsYours
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I think the UK's definition of Eurovision is Music/Comedy... our commentators will cater to that. If you dont like that then it doesnt really matter tbh because they are commentating for the United Kingdom only, not for Bulgaria or any other country. And what's the point of them sitting there and not sharing opinions? The whole point in a commentary is for it to share the commentators opinion.
You pick Elena, I'll pick Terry. She's commentating for you and he was commentating for me
.MyHeartIsYours
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You dont understand British humour if you take it offensively lol. We have a laugh at Europeans on Eurovision yes but we also have a laugh at ourselves with it. Our humour/commentary shouldnt really concern anybody else than people here. If you want me to moan, I could say things about certain commentators saying 'Use your vote wisely' when the United Kingdom's voting line comes on or about certain people saying we have sh*t taste and send crap Eurovision entries. Then maybe we can talk about feelings
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Even with taking the piss out of someone, it will not be possible to treat all equally. This year NDR talked down Sweden and Greece brutally and in the end we still gave 12 points to the latter. 
I guess that sometimes biassed comments rather have the opposite effect on people's votes as intended.
I am quite sick of listening to our commentator's personal opinion. He is too old as well (reading off all the time, slips of the tongue). I prefer interesting and neutral information.
I guess that sometimes biassed comments rather have the opposite effect on people's votes as intended.I am quite sick of listening to our commentator's personal opinion. He is too old as well (reading off all the time, slips of the tongue). I prefer interesting and neutral information.
nikolay_BG
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Basicly that`s what our commentators do. They (man and woman) will never say "I like the german song" or "I don`t like the turkish song" or "I think this song is good".
They will never joke about an entry.
They are just being neutral and let the people to decide which song they`ll vote for. In the postcards before the songs they just say something like that "And now we`ll hear the song from Greece which will be performed by Loucas Yiorkas & Stereo Mike. The song is coombining 2 music styles - rap and traditional greek music. The song was chosen on a national selection." And that`s all it.
Every country has a different approach when it comes to commentating. There is no right or wrong, only personal preference.
I personally don't care for the german commentator either as I find him dull and not charismatic at all. Get rid of him and add someone with more energy and personality. And as CC92 said, based on voting patterns commentator comments have little to no impact.
My problem with Terry Wogan was that he was bitter, old man who went way beyond what I think it's appropriate so I was glad when he left. Graham Norton is much better and is doing a pretty good job IMO.
I personally don't care for the german commentator either as I find him dull and not charismatic at all. Get rid of him and add someone with more energy and personality. And as CC92 said, based on voting patterns commentator comments have little to no impact.
My problem with Terry Wogan was that he was bitter, old man who went way beyond what I think it's appropriate so I was glad when he left. Graham Norton is much better and is doing a pretty good job IMO.
MyHeartIsYours
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Well that's fine for Bulgarian commentary but if it was the British commentary Id find that really dull. I am a Eurovision fan but I do not take Eurovision fully seriously as a music contest, yerr I want the UK to win, but one of the reasons I was drawn to Eurovision in the first place was because it's one night a year of light-hearted entertainment that is good to have a laugh at!
nikolay_BG
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...and to humiliate the rest of Europe and to shout again that UK is the best and to wave the UK flags and to sing "I love the UK"
94ayd
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Well, I could kinda understand that the Brits like making fun of the contest, I, myself, do this with a friend of mine. We pretty much find something funny in each and every entry but we still like the songs and stuff. As a matter of fact, I do find our commentators quite dull. They are actually closer to being simple translators, as they don't really express any opinion. It's good that they give all the interesting facts to the non-ESC fanatics but I'd like something to liven the mood up a bit.
nikolay_BG
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Well, I could kinda understand that the Brits like making fun of the contest, I, myself, do this with a friend of mine. We pretty much find something funny in each and every entry but we still like the songs and stuff. As a matter of fact, I do find our commentators quite dull. They are actually closer to being simple translators, as they don't really express any opinion. It's good that they give all the interesting facts to the non-ESC fanatics but I'd like something to liven the mood up a bit.
Well our "commentators" are actually "translators"
If they were commentators, it`ll be like our football commentators and we don`t want that, do we
3I also like the commentators, who translate the show, but also give additional information to the competitiors and countries.
Well, Peter Urban doesn´t really do this (I remember Estonia this year f.e.), but after all I like his moderation.
Well, Peter Urban doesn´t really do this (I remember Estonia this year f.e.), but after all I like his moderation.
nikolay_BG
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Can you give me a link of some of his moderation from youtube. I know german, but never saw the show in german
Can you give me a link of some of his moderation from youtube. I know german, but never saw the show in german
http://www.eurovision.de/videos/videoindex101_archiveID-videoarchiv173_videoID-escfinale129.html
full video of the ESC-final 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8WrUUqmroA
Germany 20111
nikolay_BG
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Nikoreindeer1973
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It's more typical Goran Bregovic.
Danke
Basicly our commentators do the same.
Hmm... most of the time he gives (very shallow) information about the acts but in between he always tries to be funny making fun out of entries he does not like. I cannot say that my favourites benefit or not in general, this year he actually talked down some of the songs I could not stand at all like Estonia or Finland but I find it fishy in any way. One notices he got a tad old, e.g. reading off identical texts in semi-finals and in the final. In 2010, he was bitching Azerbaijan (and others) for buying a Swedish song but later he cheered Germany on the voting.
How pathetic.After all, I think good commentators can be entertaining/not too serious without being biassed as well. Terry Wogan and Peter 'Wogan light' Urban both failed in that task, imho.
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nikolay_BG
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You know him more then me, so I`ll agree with you
Yeah, Terry Wogan is a commentator fail
MyHeartIsYours
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More like everyone else has a sense of humour failYeah, Terry Wogan is a commentator fail
. If he was bad, then why is he like the most legendary commentator in Eurovision history, everybody knows him and he even got a special mention in 2008 along with Jean-Paul Gaultier?? No other commentator did .