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Austria AUSTRIA 2014 - Conchita Wurst - Rise like a Phoenix

How do you rate the entry?

  • 12

    115 31.6%
  • 10

    29 8.0%
  • 8

    39 10.7%
  • 7

    22 6.0%
  • 6

    22 6.0%
  • 5

    22 6.0%
  • 4

    15 4.1%
  • 3

    10 2.7%
  • 2

    11 3.0%
  • 1

    9 2.5%
  • 0

    70 19.2%

  • Total voters
    364

i anixi

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Not a fan of conchita's song but must say she slayed it tonight, it was overall a very enjoyable moment and she totally deserved her place in the final xup
 

RainyWoods

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Not a fan of conchita's song but must say she slayed it tonight, it was overall a very enjoyable moment and she totally deserved her place in the final xup

The voice of reason xbow
 

Mozz

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We're back to square 1 it seems, the he/she discussion. In some languages there are no 2 different words for he/she and they still manage (like Chinese, they have only 1 same word for he and she). The word he/she simply refers to 'that person'. Why is the sex/gender thing of such absolute importance?

I bet Tom/Conchita doesn't care if he/she is called he or she.
 

cegs5

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love how taken out of context one word, I said she/he/it, because all people call Conchita how they want (and their right) the only one who can feel disrespectful is Conchita, not you because I/anyone other never mentioned you. Don't overreact ;)

I'm not overreacting at all. I can understand that gender could be confusing for some people, but calling "it" to someone is disrespectful and there was clearly an intention on it, doesn't matter if it was me or my neighbour or someone in Greenland...but let it be.
 

chokladplopp

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Watching her performance again.. oh my, I'm nearly crying. So beautiful and powerful. I really hope she takes the trophy on Saturday xheart
 

Trece

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Why are drag queens 'it'?

elvisontheisland dind't say its drag queens, he said stage persona, may be in English a noun still has a sex? :lol: in Russian persona is female, and trans is male :lol:
 

Alberca

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NEVER going to happen xshrug especially with the hosts constant insistence on calling Conchita Queen of Austria xpuke

Most of the die hard Conchita fans in the audience/online/home probably don't even know this or are in complete denial about it when told (they just keep calling you a homophobe and trans-phobic) xfacepalm

Yeah right... Of course Conchita is actually a man, WHO CAN EVEN DOUBT IT?? But he performes as a drag queen, and drag queens are always "she". Always. If you meet Thomas in his hometown in Austria, you can say you've seen him; if you see Conchita acting on stage or talk about her performance, it's a she.

And yes, I am very sure many people dislike her (Conchita, not him, Thomas) because it is a drag queen singing, as well as many disliked Dana International because she was a transsexual. I've seen this semifinal with my mother, who kinda accept homosexuality "as long as they don't say it loud". Well, I know she likes this music genre (she does!!), but she didn't liked Austria's entry. Guess why. Yes: "But it is ridiculous, a woman with a beard! Oh, is it a man?? Oh God..."
 

cegs5

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I've seen this semifinal with my mother, who kinda accept homosexuality "as long as they don't say it loud". Well, I know she likes this music genre (she does!!), but she didn't liked Austria's entry. Guess why. Yes: "But it is ridiculous, a woman with a beard! Oh, is it a man?? Oh God..."

:lol: I'm waiting for my mother's comments, she only watch the final every year, so she has no idea about Conchita...
Last year her 12 pointer was :ro: so, perhaps she will put her bets on :at: this time :lol:
 

Celia

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My dad was rooting for Conchita so hard :eek: he's in love with the song and was worried she wouldn't make it because of the beard. Good on him to see through the shocking look because he loves the song :p
 

Andreea

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I've seen this semifinal with my mother, who kinda accept homosexuality "as long as they don't say it loud". Well, I know she likes this music genre (she does!!), but she didn't liked Austria's entry. Guess why. Yes: "But it is ridiculous, a woman with a beard! Oh, is it a man?? Oh God..."

A woman with excessive facial hair is not appealing for most people. A character like Conchita ("woman with beard") can be seen as ridiculous , like your mom said, but is not terrifying. It would have been terrifying if it was indeed a woman and not a man who performs as a woman.

Anyway, it was the best performance of the evening and that is all that matter. My mom liked Austria's entry. She doesn't even know what "draq queen" means but she said Austria's entry was the best. She wasn't too shocked or scandalized , she just say "ohh.. is a man".
 

Nicholas123

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My dad was rooting for Conchita so hard :eek: he's in love with the song and was worried she wouldn't make it because of the beard. Good on him to see through the shocking look because he loves the song :p

My mother absolutely adored it as well ! :D

That's the right attitude! :D

The song and performance above everything else! :D
 

i anixi

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Can't believe that today, of all days, people are bothering to discuss the "problem" of conchita's gender. If one didn't know it already, one would guess straight away A-Lister is back.
Holy Christ! xfaint
 

toinou03

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My mum found the character amusing, but I'm sure she will looooove the song ! :D
 
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