Ukraine UKRAINE 2018 - Mélovin - Under the Ladder

[mercachita]

It will be one of my favourites. Good choice Ukraine

Now Mélovin has to work on is english pronunciation and then it's all perfect.

I'll give 10 points looking for 12

 

[Fluke]

Somewhat interesting performance but very boring song IMO, don't get why they chose this at all, but maybe they really don't want to win again in a while.

 

[sapsan]

Re: UKRAINE 2018

And Ukrainians so love and respect their own language that you sung on English even on home ground last year. And only one song on Ukrainian this year take third place on tele-voting. Sorry but you reaction is just nationalistic (even I can understand reason for that)

We respect our lanquage but we think that Eurovision is international song contest and the song for ESC should have international level. My opinion - all songs for Eurovision should be in International lanquage (though English couldn't help to safe 80% of a weak songs).


Yes, I hate this year's trend and a lot of songs singing in local lanquages. It's killing Eurovision for me. O-IO

 

[Scooby]

Re: UKRAINE 2018

We respect our lanquage but we think that Eurovision is international song contest and the song for ESC should have international level. My opinion - all songs for Eurovision should be in International lanquage (though English couldn't help to safe 80% of a weak songs).

Yes, I hate this year's trend and a lot of songs singing in local lanquages. It's killing Eurovision for me. O-IO

International = many nations = diversity
What is international language?

I know that in your countries freedom of speech is totally unknown concept.

Yeah sure

 

[ParadiseES]

My favourite entry so far, after my own country. 12 points!

 

[yulichka]

Re: UKRAINE 2018

International = many nations = diversity
What is international language?

All the inviting artists said at least 'thank you' in the Ukrainian language. And the crowd went wild.
So cut it finally. And stop with your chauvinism.

 

[Fierro]

Re: UKRAINE 2018

All the inviting artists said at least 'thank you' in the Ukrainian language. And the crowd went wild.
So cut it finally. And stop with your chauvinism.

Doesn't your statement proves Scooby's post though? -O-

Although he's completely wrong with definition of "international"

 

[A-lister]

We respect our lanquage but we think that Eurovision is international song contest and the song for ESC should have international level. My opinion - all songs for Eurovision should be in International lanquage (though English couldn't help to safe 80% of a weak songs).


Yes, I hate this year's trend and a lot of songs singing in local lanquages. It's killing Eurovision for me. O-IO

You have got to be kidding me!? More linguistic diversity is "killing" Eurovision!? Do you even grasp the core concept of Eurovision because you talk like someone who is anti-Eurovision?

Well, if you're going to sing in what you refer to as "international language" (I assume you refer to English?), atleast one minimum criteria should be to know that language on atleast a basic level.. which seems not be the case of Mélovin. There is no "international level" if you sing with such a heavy accent that it becomes a parody... that's just amateur level

I'm not sure what you even mean by "international level", in Eurovision it's important to have an overall strong package on a "high" and "professional level" including a memorable song, good staging and performance if you want to have the best chances at a good result... and you could have had that in Tayanna in UKRAINIAN language (God forbid countries are actually sending entries representing them following the ACTUAL concept of Eurovision!?) but instead you will have LOWER level in extreme broken English so congrats to that ...

... I also love the myth about English being such a 'lingua franca' ... you have many people in Europe that don't even have English as second language (more or less whole Eastern Europe and even Southern Europe to some extent), so good luck with that "argument"... yes English is a 'lingua franca' but Eurovision as a concept is not about sending only Americanized Pop in English, if that's what you think you misunderstood the concept completely.

 

[AlekS]

*sending positive energy to this thread*

 

[AlekS]

In the semi: "I hate singing kids!"


In the final:

 

[Fierro]

I think he meant kids that do it for big scene dream or competition like Petryk and all jesc participants. singing for fun is no evil.

 

[AlekS]

^ yep, later he said he doesn't get JESC and hates when kids are forced to perform by their parents.

 

[A-lister]

In the semi: "I hate singing kids!"


In the final:

Mélovin's fanclub gathered?

 

[AlekS]

Mélovin's fanclub gathered?

Tayanna's

She said kids (including her own) like Lelya very much. Maybe that's why she downgraded her sexy costume

 

[AlekS]

- We've been already thinking about staging, today.
- Can you give us a hint at least?
- I can say that it will be hot.
- Hotter than in Vidbir final?
- Yes, hotter.

He also hinted that this will be a different staging than in Vidbir.
Danilko will pay/offer him an English teacher.

 

[burrito]

BIG FAT

Guys, you made a very good decision choosing Melovin over Tayanna, like very very good This what is brought by Melovin is almost a full package, minus his English which indeed needs a bit of polishing but it 's not like it can't be done, so I wouldn't be too worried about that. Studio version is nowhere as good as live so I guess it's a plus. And he has a great voice. My favorite right after Albania but worth every 12 points as well.

BTW I don't want to get into this whole argument happening earlier, but it seems quite weird to me that being born and raised in Ukraine he does not speak Ukrainian (unless he does but prefers Russian, then my point is invalid) Like, are them Russian people in/around Odessa being so hermetic as a society that a child can grow in a country never effectively picking up this country's language? Or am I missing something.

 

[lavieenrose]

Catching up on Esk entries finally, and from the posts here, I was expecting the worst thing I'd ever heard. Imagine my pleasant surprise when I discovered that this one is just garden-variety not good and features an annoying chorus. Worth 3 points at least.

(btw, ditch the Timothee Chalamet hair.)

 

[Remembrance]

Pretty good stuff. I like Mélovin's performance, and the beat of the song's great

8 points.

 

[Kairit]

Objectively I understand why a lot of people do like this. But damn they really missed an opportunity there with Tayanna. Personally I think this song lacks personality a bit. It's wonderfully produced and the chorus, especially the rhythm of it is quite catchy but I can't fully connect with it (even if it's growing on me steadily), something is missing here ... Might be a stronger melody in most of the song, some heart, soul, originality, whatever it is ... I'm not the biggest fan. Plus the oh-whoa-oh chorus bit irks me. It also seems like another case of a song trying to be something big, but ending up falling flat. But they've definetly delivered a quality entry here at least, also it seems to be one of the only songs that makes me want to dance, which is a huge plus.

 

[ZoboCamel]

I just realised I still haven't posted my thoughts on this one yet despite doing that long predictive post before the NF, so let me join the procession of people giving late opinions

Essentially, I'd say it's a pretty good midtempo song without many flaws to pick at (apart from Melovin's English pronunciation); it's competent, it's enjoyable and it's hard to complain about. I imagine it should do pretty well for Ukraine in May too.

That said, it's nothing spectacular; while I enjoy it, it's hard to get too excited about what is essentially just a somewhat-above-average version of a hundred previous Eurovision songs. In comparison, while I'm not as big on Tayanna as some people here were, I'd have loved to see her take the win - she had a fun, upbeat song in native language, a fantastic performance (especially vocally) and would've been a treat to see at Eurovision. Still, I won't hold that against Melovin too much, as he's at least decent.

I'm wavering between 6 or 7 points for the poll, but I think it's a 6 for now.