The New Hosts for 2016

[A-lister]

Gina Dirawai did a great job in Melodifestivalen, I really would like her to host as well.

While we're on Gina and Malena, let's just bring freaking Hamas on stage hosting it... it makes as much sense.

 

[A-lister]

Malena Ernman is an active anti-fascist and anti-racist. She and her mother Eva (retired deaconess) have during many years sheltered refugees who were facing extradition. Frequently engaging SD on twitter and articles.

The fascists of the future will be called anti-fascists <- Best quote ever and so true in especially Sweden !

Malena Ernman is nothing but a puppet for the regime thinking she can earn some "street cred" by spreading her vile hatred towards political opponents of the regime... as if somehow her all white upper-class opera life will make her look more "mixed" and "hood"... who is she trying to fool really? Has she even properly been to the Swedish suburbs? ... she's just a laughable so called "useful idiot", just a hypocrite like the rest.

 

[DanielLuis]

While we're on Gina and Malena, let's just bring freaking Hamas on stage hosting it... it makes as much sense.

I don't know anything about Gina or Malena's politcal view to be honest. Anyway, it's not like if she hosts she'll have a monologue on the show about whatever she supports. What matters is that she is a good host and as such would do a good job if selected.

 

[A-lister]

I don't know anything about Gina or Malena's politcal view to be honest. Anyway, it's not like if she hosts she'll have a monologue on the show about whatever she supports. What matters is that she is a good host and as such would do a good job if selected.

I don't want people who spread hatred and/-or support hatred to be paid by Swedish tax-payers and have the honor to represent the whole country on stage in one of the biggest international shows of all.

Don't get me wrong, a host shouldn't be chosen based on his/her political views, but there should be a line drawn here.

 

[ElRuso]

Gina would be amazing.

 

[LalehForWD]

Gina would be amazing.

 

[LalehForWD]

I don't want people who spread hatred and/-or support hatred to be paid by Swedish tax-payers and have the honor to represent the whole country on stage in one of the biggest international shows of all.

Don't get me wrong, a host shouldn't be chosen based on his/her political views, but there should be a line drawn here.

Classic case of turning the subject the other way around. Critics of SD populism and neofascism isn't hatred, it's called democracy and freedom of speech. And while we're at it, wouldn't you just love to have Kodjo as host (or Behrang Miri).

 

[LalehForWD]

Anyway, the case of Allsång host is settled as Sanna got the job

http://www.expressen.se/noje/svt-bekraftar-sanna-nielsen-leder-allsang/

which means she will probably not host Eurovision, which in turn means that SVT probably already have settled for a candidate other than Sanna.

 

[LalehForWD]

My tip of Eurovision host

 

[A-lister]

Classic case of turning the subject the other way around. Critics of SD populism and neofascism isn't hatred, it's called democracy and freedom of speech. And while we're at it, wouldn't you just love to have Kodjo as host (or Behrang Miri).

It's fine to critic whoever and whatever you want, but it's also a great honor to be the host for this show and you do not just represent yourself in this.

Yes, hushing opponents and making up whatever weird name-callings and false-claims you can in the book to try to assassinate the characters of whoever disagree with your stances is not criticism, that is fascism baby, the very same behavior as the thing you try to "criticize".

Kodjo is cool, Behrang Miri is a joke though.

 

[LalehForWD]

Malena Ernman has been spitting out vile loath against Sweden and parts of its population for the past year.

Malena Ernman is nothing but a puppet for the regime thinking she can earn some "street cred" by spreading her vile hatred towards political opponents of the regime... she's just a laughable so called "useful idiot", just a hypocrite like the rest.

Yes, hushing opponents and making up whatever weird name-callings and false-claims you can in the book to try to assassinate the characters of whoever disagree with your stances is not criticism, that is fascism baby, the very same behavior as the thing you try to "criticize".

Well, you started bringing in a political aspect and personal beliefs as valid arguments in whoever will be the host. In a democracy everyone is entitled to have whatever opinion in whatever subject and express that in public. You don't have to be a christian protestant to be the host and you can even be a member of SD or SMR (hm maybe). Your personal political opinion is simply irrelevant as is your religion.

 

[A-lister]

Well, you started bringing in a political aspect and personal beliefs as valid arguments in whoever will be the host. In a democracy everyone is entitled to have whatever opinion in whatever subject and express that in public. You don't have to be a christian protestant to be the host and you can even be a member of SD or SMR (hm maybe). Your personal political opinion is simply irrelevant as is your religion.

It's an honor to be the host of this show, of course a host shouldn't be chosen based on personal believes and of course you are entitled to your own believes, but if you get the most honorable hosting job you could get in Sweden and representing a whole country aswell as getting paid by tax payers by doing so, certainly hating on your country and democracy or a certain group of people should atleast make one question if you should get the honor of hosting.

Regardless I can't see Ernman as a host and Gina still sucks as a hostess even if she'd be a devoted SD-sympathizer and not the Hamas sympathizer she is today... so objectively speaking they wouldn't be good picks as hostess regardless of their political views. Also how can one fit as a hostess for a contest where a country enters that she openly loath? Does it make her fit for the job? (speaking about Gina now).

 

[LalehForWD]

It's an honor to be the host of this show, of course a host shouldn't be chosen based on personal believes and of course you are entitled to your own believes, but if you get the most honorable hosting job you could get in Sweden and representing a whole country aswell as getting paid by tax payers by doing so, certainly hating on your country and democracy or a certain group of people should atleast make one question if you should get the honor of hosting.

Regardless I can't see Ernman as a host and Gina still sucks as a hostess even if she'd be a devoted SD-sympathizer and not the Hamas sympathizer she is today... so objectively speaking they wouldn't be good picks as hostess regardless of their political views. Also how can one fit as a hostess for a contest where a country enters that she openly loath? Does it make her fit for the job? (speaking about Gina now).

Malena is "hating on your country and democracy or a certain group"? LOL just because she criticise SD? Do we have to start over from the beginning again? Can you even find any artist or celebrity in Sweden that isn't criticising SD? Oh we have Ultima Thule ofc . Just deal with it that your politics is extremely polarising and most people strongly resent it, it's just how it is.

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Sorry but it's so tempting, there you go approved hosts Eurovision 2016

Ultima Thule ft Jimmie

 

[theCONWEL]

Babsan pls

 

[A-lister]

Malena is "hating on your country and democracy or a certain group"? LOL just because she criticise SD? Do we have to start over from the beginning again? Can you even find any artist or celebrity in Sweden that isn't criticising SD? Oh we have Ultima Thule ofc . Just deal with it that your politics is extremely polarising and most people strongly resent it, it's just how it is.

Yes Malena is hating on our country (and not because she criticizes SD per se)... no, it will be difficult to find open SD-supporters in the left-field PC-maniac that is the Swedish show-business, but these people are a very small proportion of the entire population though and it's not really fair to use artists as some sort of representation of the whole population.

The majority of Swedes agree with SD's stances on limiting immigration, and if you checked the polls lately they are equally big as S and M, so I think your idea that "no one agrees with them" is not very valid.

Yuck I hate that band ... and yes this is a rare moment where I agree with you and them posing with that crap is shameful...

 

[LalehForWD]

Yes Malena is hating on our country (and not because she criticizes SD per se)... no, it will be difficult to find open SD-supporters in the left-field PC-maniac that is the Swedish show-business, but these people are a very small proportion of the entire population though and it's not really fair to use artists as some sort of representation of the whole population.

The majority of Swedes agree with SD's stances on limiting immigration, and if you checked the polls lately they are equally big as S and M, so I think your idea that "no one agrees with them" is not very valid.

Yuck I hate that bad ... and yes this is a rare moment where I agree with you and them posing with that crap is shameful...

We shouldn't pollute the thread with politics, but what I seriously mean is that SD (in its current shape) isn't acceptable on multiple levels for most Swedes (say at least >80%) due to its extremely polarising approach, but this is steadily improving. SD is changing and its politics refined which means bigger reach to people. It isn't the same party as 10 years ago and surely not as it was in the 90s nazi period. Judging people on basis on what attitude they have to SD isn't really relevant in Eurovision (or any other circumstance other than a political discussion). No one with a different political opinion would even dream of thinking in these terms. I guess it comes from wanting acceptance and respect for SD's ideology. Forget it, it will never happen. Just compare your own attitude towards say Socialism. At the end of the day it doesn't really matter if people agrees with your politics.

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Just to clarify what I tried to say, it is a difference between acceptance and supporters. The other parties doesn't need to dominate with supporters, they accept and respect each other anyway. SD will surely go through a process of normalisation which in the end will give respect automagically, just don't expect any until that is developed.

 

[Hele.]

I would like to see Mans as host! It would be cool! But no, please not Petra Mede. Once she was good host, not perfect, it was fun. But hey...Sweden doesn't have any other great hosts? Doubt so! Sweden please offers something NEW! I would like to see Sana Nielsen personally but ti can be Gina Dirawi too!

 

[DanielLuis]

I would like to see Mans as host! It would be cool! But no, please not Petra Mede. Once she was good host, not perfect, it was fun. But hey...Sweden doesn't have any other great hosts? Doubt so! Sweden please offers something NEW! I would like to see Sana Nielsen personally but ti can be Gina Dirawi too!

I don't think they'll be choosing Petra Mede again.

 

[A-lister]

We shouldn't pollute the thread with politics, but what I seriously mean is that SD (in its current shape) isn't acceptable on multiple levels for most Swedes (say at least >80%) due to its extremely polarising approach, but this is steadily improving. SD is changing and its politics refined which means bigger reach to people. It isn't the same party as 10 years ago and surely not as it was in the 90s nazi period. Judging people on basis on what attitude they have to SD isn't really relevant in Eurovision (or any other circumstance other than a political discussion). No one with a different political opinion would even dream of thinking in these terms. I guess it comes from wanting acceptance and respect for SD's ideology. Forget it, it will never happen. Just compare your own attitude towards say Socialism. At the end of the day it doesn't really matter if people agrees with your politics.

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Just to clarify what I tried to say, it is a difference between acceptance and supporters. The other parties doesn't need to dominate with supporters, they accept and respect each other anyway. SD will surely go through a process of normalisation which in the end will give respect automagically, just don't expect any until that is developed.

I honestly don't want to make this a political discussion, my initial point was that there's an honor in getting this job so it should be an honorable person getting it. With that said, again it doesn't mean they have to be SD-supporters (do you honestly think that's what I meant?), all I meant is that it can't be people who are spreading hate.

Take Sarah Dawn Finer for instance, she is probably not an SD-supporter and that's fine, but the stances she made has been made by grace and mostly for good causes like standing up for LGBT-rights. You can say your opinion and do it in different ways and handle yourself in different ways while doing it. Malena Ernman is just going vile on everyone she disagrees with and should I remind you about Gina's constant anti-semitic/anti-Israeli stances? None of the latter two are handling themselves gracefully in any way, they both come across as either directly hostile with lack of manners (Ernman) or hateful with desperate damage controls (Gina).

And yes, the majority of Swedes agrees with SD's main points on decreasing immigration, this is statistically proven, but again this has nothing to do with this discussion and nor was it my intention to take it there.

 

[LalehForWD]

I honestly don't want to make this a political discussion, my initial point was that there's an honor in getting this job so it should be an honorable person getting it. With that said, again it doesn't mean they have to be SD-supporters (do you honestly think that's what I meant?), all I meant is that it can't be people who are spreading hate.

Take Sarah Dawn Finer for instance, she is probably not an SD-supporter and that's fine, but the stances she made has been made by grace and mostly for good causes like standing up for LGBT-rights. You can say your opinion and do it in different ways and handle yourself in different ways while doing it. Malena Ernman is just going vile on everyone she disagrees with and should I remind you about Gina's constant anti-semitic/anti-Israeli stances? None of the latter two are handling themselves gracefully in any way, they both come across as either directly hostile with lack of manners (Ernman) or hateful with desperate damage controls (Gina).

And yes, the majority of Swedes agrees with SD's main points on decreasing immigration, this is statistically proven, but again this has nothing to do with this discussion and nor was it my intention to take it there.

I don't care what Gina think about politics, it's her private matters and her right just like anybody else. Malena obviously has a mission with her mother in without having looked it up seem like a christian charity. I respect her for it but personally I'm not that interested. Malena Ernman is a opera singer known for her vocal range. She is also appointed by the king as "Hovsångerska". etc etc What she thinks about politics simply isn't relevant.

You are wrong in bringing a political aspect as a valid argument in whoever will be host (or other Eurovision subjects). While doing that you also of course advocate for a political opinion in a general thread. The propaganda comes with bringing in politics in the first place. You have been doing it for years and for me it's equally awful everytime.