Sweden gives Eurovision a "refugee crisis" theme

[ag89]

Re: Sweden gives Eurovision a "refugee crisis theme"

Disgusting comments.

You guys should hang more with right wing radicals. Lack of information is quite stunning in this era of high-tech stuff.

 

[Brandt]

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I feel the spiritual pain in my body in this thread. And Europe is so called the land of civilisation.

No, not even close.

 

[ag89]

Re: Sweden gives Eurovision a "refugee crisis theme"

I feel the spiritual pain in my body in this thread. And Europe is so called the land of civilisation.

No, not even close.

Well, the good thing this and similar topics can help you to understand Eurovision fans are also ordinary people with prejudices, hatred, lack of information and so on.

 

[Nikkita]

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I can't believe the amount of disgusting comments here. Don't worry guys, you'll get the BEST of these savage refugees while other savages like us trying to keep up with the "bad bunch" because both good and bad people can't come from a country. I've never been pissed off so much from reading anything on internet, some of people here are just wasting oxygen.

As for the "refugee crisis theme", all i think is Mans singing Heroes with children from different origins.

 

[Brandt]

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Well, the good thing this and similar topics can help you to understand Eurovision fans are also ordinary people with prejudices, hatred, lack of information and so on.

Now I definitely agree with you, although I would hear it on other medias but I never felt it that real. When it comes to homosexuality, everything is understandable. But when it comes to human lifes, safety, trauma of little children who have no idea what is going on, this is just illegal whatever. I am literally disgusted that much by Eurofans for the very first time.

 

[Brandt]

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What about the lives of Europeans?

If you educate refugees the way you educate Europeans, they can be a European too. But some of them will of course insist to spread their narrow minded pressures around. Then you can just kick them out and you can then have a clear conscience. If people don't feel even a little sadness in their hearts for innocent people, then I must say that they are as dangerous as anyone else.

 

[ag89]

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Now I definitely agree with you, although I would hear it on other medias but I never felt it that real. When it comes to homosexuality, everything is understandable. But when it comes to human lifes, safety, trauma of little children who have no idea what is going on, this is just illegal whatever. I am literally disgusted that much by Eurofans for the very first time.

Well, most people here are just into that gay drama thing (Russia, Belarus, gay rights bla bla), but "f... refugees, f... Palestinians in Israel, we won't boo Israel because who gives a f..., it's not about gay rights".

"Refugees?! Oh, f... them, they are threat to our culture, their religion is against this or that, they are ugly, criminals," and so on. This is what happens when you see only one side of the story.

There is something very strange when people on this forum start to write their "culture" is threatened, I just cannot believe the very same people will go to Eurovision and wave rainbow flags and act like liberal folks.

Generalization is the road toward hatred and prejudices.

 

[Mii11]

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I'm also disgusted - I'm disgusted because transgender women being stoned, innocent girls and boys being raped, innocent people being murdered by illegal immigrant disguised as refugees is now widely accepted in Europe and no one gives a damn about it. Some people even suggest that its fine to encourage individuals who are dangerous as well as some genuine refugees to cross the sea risking their lives to reach our Utopian European (or rather Western European) Land and then to invade countries just like that ignoring all the procedures. Then the same people want to spread their propaganda by using popular music competition, trying to push through the idea that there is no problem whatsoever and we should happily accept everyone coming in. This is unacceptable, not some random comments on the Internet.

 

[Mii11]

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Kinda crossing a line here, aren't we.

Would you care to explain why?

 

[Nikkita]

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I'm also disgusted - I'm disgusted because transgender women being stoned, innocent girls and boys being raped, innocent people being murdered by illegal immigrant disguised as refugees is now widely accepted in Europe and no one gives a damn about it. Some people even suggest that its fine to encourage individuals who are dangerous as well as some genuine refugees to cross the sea risking their lives to reach our Utopian European (or rather Western European) Land and then to invade countries just like that ignoring all the procedures. Then the same people want to spread their propaganda by using popular music competition, trying to push through the idea that there is no problem whatsoever and we should happily accept everyone coming in. This is unacceptable, not some random comments on the Internet.

NOBODY SAID IT WAS OK TO HURT OTHER PEOPLE
NOBODY SAID PEOPLE WHO HURT OTHER PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE PUNISHED
NOT ALL REFUGEES ARE STONING AND RAPING PEOPLE HOWEVER WHEN ONE REFUGEE COMMITS A CRIME IT BECOMES A RACE'S FAULT
SHOULD WE CALL ALL BULGARIANS RAPISTS BECAUSE A RAPE HAPPENED IN BULGARIA? NO
REFUGEE DOING BAD? SEND HIM\HER BACK. REFUGEE TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH YOU? TAKE HIM\HER BECAUSE HIS\HER OWN COUNTRY IS RUINED
NOBODY CHOOSES TO BE A REFUGEE HUMILIATED AND HATED BY THOUSANDS

 

[Nikkita]

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Would you care to explain why?

That person was making "fun" of Islamic Clothing. That meant we have to wear nun clothes if we want to make ourselves approachable for EU.

 

[Mii11]

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NOBODY SAID IT WAS OK TO HURT OTHER PEOPLE
NOBODY SAID PEOPLE WHO HURT OTHER PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE PUNISHED
NOT ALL REFUGEES ARE STONING AND RAPING PEOPLE HOWEVER WHEN ONE REFUGEE COMMITS A CRIME IT BECOMES A RACE'S FAULT
SHOULD WE CALL ALL BULGARIANS RAPISTS BECAUSE A RAPE HAPPENED IN BULGARIA? NO
REFUGEE DOING BAD? SEND HIM\HER BACK. REFUGEE TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH YOU? TAKE HIM\HER BECAUSE HIS\HER OWN COUNTRY IS RUINED
NOBODY CHOOSES TO BE A REFUGEE HUMILIATED AND HATED BY THOUSANDS

There's a difference between being a refugee and invading another land illegally. Most of 'refugees' that invade Europe are not even from regions that experience war (Syria and Iraq) but from safe countries like Algieria and Morocco. Besides if someone is a real refugee then they would want to get to the first safe country that they reach. If they are real refugees, why can't they stay in Turkey, Lebanon, Cyprus, Greece or Italy until they are legally relocated to another country? I know a few refugees (one is a lesbian from Iran and another one is from North Korea) and they had been staying in refugee camps in Turkey and China respectively until they were relocated to another country - legally. They didn't feel need to make long journeys to rich countries, unlike illegal migrants disguised as refugees.

BTW I'm not Bulgarian so next time try something different in order to personally offend me. Regardless of that - no, Bulgarians are not rapists. Genuine refugees should receive help but I will never support the illegal invasion that is going on right now. I will never support illegal economic immigrants as well.

 

[Mii11]

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That person was making "fun" of Islamic Clothing. That meant we have to wear nun clothes if we want to make ourselves approachable for EU.

Since when is this clothing islamic? As far as I'm concerned this is a recent export from Arabic countries, not even connected to religion. Most Muslims I know don't even wear this, some of them cover their hair but that's it.

 

[musicfan]

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"Sven Stojanovic, who is the show's producer, said the refugee crisis would be highlighted by a dance routine."

A dance routine. Expressing one of the greatest humanitarian crises facing Europe in roughly 70 years. While the crisis is ongoing. This has to be a joke.

Maybe they'll add a dance routine expressing the conflict between Armenian and Azerbaijan.

 

[musicfan]

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The Eurovision organisers have been pushing politics for a while though, talking about it bringing 'countries' together, getting all the flag waving going, having contestants enter with flags like it's some musical Olympics. They want to see themselves as much more than music festival organisers and there's a real arrogance to that. Eurovision is actually about broadcasters sending songs to the contest, and isn't supposed to be about governments. The listing of songs by country should be seen as a matter of convenience and nothing more, it would be so much better if that's what people admitted.

 

[Anthony Tesla]

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You can make the argument if this is right or wrong, but the sole fact that this has become such a heated conversation it's a very good proof that this idea it's very dividing, and clash HARD with the unity theme.

 

[Gera11]

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Oh so the whole "Come together" bullshit was about immigrants to come together [to Merkel and Sweden]. This is probably the worst 'theme' they could think of.

Can't wait for Russia to host, tbh. Their political standings sucks really bad, but I doubt they would shove them on our throats, unlike Sweden.

 

[Sammy]

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I am shocked and disgusted by the level of aggressivity and hate in many of the posts here. How easiliy the word "hater" is used in this forum when somebody says something harmless like: "i don't like song x". The true meaning of the word becomes real in this thread: generalizations, rumors, home tailord explanations for the crisis on the level of first graders or low level boulevard papers, prejudices, non proven accusations.
There is so much cynism and intolerance, its just repugnant

Some of those who make fun or accuse refugees belong to people from which quite a number of members were themselves refugees not so long ago as for instance Hungary. Just a brief reminder....

Some of those may have forgotten how they praised themselves of their tolerance two years ago when Conchita won and despised intolerance from Rusdia and Belarus. Where is your tolerance now?

Some of those may also have forgotten all the prejudices they were victome of for whatever reason, perhaps for instance all the slendering and false accusations gay people are exposed to so often? Didn't you fight generalizations and prejudices then? Why are you doing the same thing in reverse now?

I'm not saying this is an easy situation, I'm not saying all the refugees are good and everyone who has an uneasy feeling about what is about to come are dumb racists, I'm not saying there haven't been made errors, I'm not saying this is not a very problematic situation with aspects that are even dangerous.
But could you please stop being so hateful and cynical?

Grab yourself a coursebook for english, german, french or whatever and go to the next NGO and offer to help refugees to learn your language. just once a week. You'll do more to help solve the problem and prevent us from dangerous developments than displaying all of this simplified rubbish here.

(And yes, I'm working already with 3 afghans, 2 iraqi and 2 syrian refugees to learn german. And I hope they never have to read what you globally write here about "the refugees" in general, meaning them as well.)

Don't bother to answer to this post.

 

[Nikkita]

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There's a difference between being a refugee and invading another land illegally. Most of 'refugees' that invade Europe are not even from regions that experience war (Syria and Iraq) but from safe countries like Algieria and Morocco. Besides if someone is a real refugee then they would want to get to the first safe country that they reach. If they are real refugees, why can't they stay in Turkey, Lebanon, Cyprus, Greece or Italy until they are legally relocated to another country? I know a few refugees (one is a lesbian from Iran and another one is from North Korea) and they had been staying in refugee camps in Turkey and China respectively until they were relocated to another country - legally. They didn't feel need to make long journeys to rich countries, unlike illegal migrants disguised as refugees.

BTW I'm not Bulgarian so next time try something different in order to personally offend me. Regardless of that - no, Bulgarians are not rapists. Genuine refugees should receive help but I will never support the illegal invasion that is going on right now. I will never support illegal economic immigrants as well.

How do you know Algeria or Morocco is safe for these people? It is rarely shown on the Western media but lots of bombings has happened in the southeast of Turkey, so it's like a war-zone, and as much as i know there has been people coming to EU.

I don't know about Lebanon, Cyprus or Greece but why do these savage inviders (as you say) not stay in Turkey is because they are not taken care of. Syrian people are seen as cheap labor force or beggars, since they do not earn a lot of money, if they're not staying in poorly made and unplanned refugee camps, they have to work for very cheap money, and for they i mean children too. Turks are not fond of them so shopkeepers beating up Syrian children has been on the news for a while. As for Syrian girls, they're commonly married to old people since child marriage (however illegal) can be common in the rural parts of Turkey.

I didn't give the example for offending you, i gave it because there can be bad people in every country, Bulgaria, Syria...etc.

I don't even understand how people escaping from war can invade a land. Maybe they are just trying to live in better conditions?

 

[Nikkita]

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Since when is this clothing islamic? As far as I'm concerned this is a recent export from Arabic countries, not even connected to religion.

If a Muslim woman feels like covering all of her body parts, she can. I'm aware of the fact that we are (Muslim women) can be forced to wear in countries with Sharia law, however it's prejudices talking here, so i thought using that clothing as a "funny" picture was wrong for that person, i'd say it to themselves but i think they're too dumb.