Sweden gives Eurovision a "refugee crisis" theme

[MyHeartIsYours]

Re: Sweden gives Eurovision a "refugee crisis theme"

Well SVT have guaranteed at least a small increase in the EU referendum "out" vote with this move lol.

 

[Mii11]

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The whole situation is repellent to me. Apparently the theme was meant to be 'Come Together' and Eurovision was not meant to be connected to politics. Ironically they intend to include the issue that has divided many Europeans all over the continent - just to pursue their awful propaganda. It's beyond disgusting if you ask me.

 

[Mii11]

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They should really go for it and invite Islamic State just like they invited last year. Islamic State would provide a BOMBastic performance, that's for sure...

 

[Chorizo]

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They should really go for it and invite Islamic State just like they invited last year. Islamic State would provide a BOMBastic performance, that's for sure...

Well, they might invite refugees to join them on stage that will later turn out to be members of ISIS.

 

[Chorizo]

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I hope they won't hire refugees as security guards too.

 

[Mii11]

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They should invite our beloved Mutti Merkel as well. After all she is refugee's Mother Theresa. Without her we wouldn't have opportunity to witness all of this.

 

[MyHeartIsYours]

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I don't even get why the illegal immigrants are a "humanitarian crisis" anyway. If I chose to set out on the North Sea in a dinghy and drowned would you say I had faced a "humanitarian crisis"? No I would have just been bloody stupid!

The true "humanitarian crisis" is people going into a cafe and being shot dead. People dancing their Friday night away and being blown to pieces. Not people choosing to do stupid thinks like cross a great sea in a pound shop blow-up boat. But it seems that according to these pc types Western people can't face humanitarian crises or sufferings. No we have it easy and must martyr ourselves and repent for the fact that we're from rich and successful countries.

By Eurovision showing this I actually think it will make Europe even more anti-illegal immigrant. The last thing people like is a lecture, in particular during Saturday night television show.

 

[Mii11]

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I don't even get why the illegal immigrants are a "humanitarian crisis" anyway. If I chose to set out on the North Sea in a dinghy and drowned would you say I had faced a "humanitarian crisis"? No I would have just been bloody stupid!

The true "humanitarian crisis" is people going into a cafe and being shot dead. People dancing their Friday night away and being blown to pieces. Not people choosing to do stupid thinks like cross a great sea in a pound shop blow-up boat. But it seems that according to these pc types Western people can't face humanitarian crises or sufferings. No we have it easy and must martyr ourselves and repent for the fact that we're from rich and successful countries.

By Eurovision showing this I actually think it will make Europe even more anti-illegal immigrant. The last thing people like is a lecture, in particular during Saturday night television show.

Not only that. The people might decide to boycott Eurovision next year. Some countries might even pull out of the contest (e.g. and ) because of this foolish piece of propaganda.

 

[zs1001]

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Not only that. The people might decide to boycott Eurovision next year. Some countries might even pull out of the contest (e.g. and ) because of this foolish piece of propaganda.

I do not agree with you, none of the countries will pull out of the contest. But on the other hand the contest will lose millions of viewers who think they do not need this propaganda after belgian victims buried just 1 month ago. To be honest Conchita's victory was not good for the contest neither but this hot topic is more destructive for the reputation of ESC. It is a song contest we do not need to support or protest against ongoing political issues. This crisis is not black or white like saving pandas, very complicated. Showing from one perspective...could be very dangerous attempt of SVT. I hope it is just a post April fools joke.

 

[Franzilein]

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Argh, this thread here is hilarious.

I partly agree with everyone. ESC shouldn't be about politics, we've got to deal with that on a daily basis, especially the debate about refugees / migrants. This topic divides countries in whole Europe.
However, I'm actually pretty shocked as well. You guys are talking about human life here, yet only seem to connect refugees / migrants with terror. What the hell? Where's your humanity and empathy? And that's where I can understand SVT's approach, even though I wish they would do it similar to Norway 2010 (without the direct connection to the refugee crisis). That flashmob to "Glow" was absolutely brilliant, "though we all feel different, you are just like me". Seems like some people that wrote in this thread need to rewatch that again...

 

[Chorizo]

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They should invite our beloved Mutti Merkel as well. After all she is refugee's Mother Theresa. Without her we wouldn't have opportunity to witness all of this.

She could replace Lys Assia as the special guest star since Eurovision is all about the refugees now. The parade of flags could pass by her throne and all the participants would be required to bow and curtsy in front of her.

 

[Chorizo]

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Not only that. The people might decide to boycott Eurovision next year. Some countries might even pull out of the contest (e.g. and ) because of this foolish piece of propaganda.

Maybe it will backfire and Hungary will win. I would like to see the faces of the Swedes who came up with this idea if a country with a clear anti-immigration stance won.
I really hope Sweden won't win again in a very long time.

 

[Chorizo]

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Jamie-Lee's new refugee-approved outfit:

 

[Franzilein]

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Jamie-Lee's new refugee-approved outfit:

Kinda crossing a line here, aren't we.

 

[Vespertine]

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Argh, this thread here is hilarious.

I partly agree with everyone. ESC shouldn't be about politics, we've got to deal with that on a daily basis, especially the debate about refugees / migrants. This topic divides countries in whole Europe.
However, I'm actually pretty shocked as well. You guys are talking about human life here, yet only seem to connect refugees / migrants with terror. What the hell? Where's your humanity and empathy? And that's where I can understand SVT's approach, even though I wish they would do it similar to Norway 2010 (without the direct connection to the refugee crisis). That flashmob to "Glow" was absolutely brilliant, "though we all feel different, you are just like me". Seems like some people that wrote in this thread need to rewatch that again...

This.

I mean, I get what Sweden might want to be doing, after all this year's theme is "Come Together"; but can I say that as noble as their intentions might be, it's really. really, really, best to keep politics out of Eurovision, even more so for a controversial topic?

On the side note, does anybody have any other sources?

 

[zs1001]

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Maybe it will backfire and Hungary will win. I would like to see the faces of the Swedes who came up with this idea if a country with a clear anti-immigration stance won.
I really hope Sweden won't win again in a very long time.

First, Chorizo! pls change your avatar - you look like Agnete Gianluca Day to day I have less hope for Freddie's win but If this miracle comes true this or next year I believe that people will vote for the song not the political dissimilarity.
I wish I could watch the same kind of 12 points results for Hungary like Lena's mistake in 2013. 3

My favourite voting video. Lena is so cute. From lovely Hungary to lovely Lena.

 

[Chorizo]

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Kinda crossing a line here, aren't we.

You are right. The other pic went too far. Here's a more realistic version:

 

[Franzilein]

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You are right. The other pic went too far. Here's a more realistic version:

Sigh... xstupid

 

[Anthony Tesla]

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I'm going to (try) be the grown-up in the room.

Even if we accept this is well-meaning, and has nothing but good intentions (I think a lot of refugees get a lot of unfair crap, that's the truth, but we can't deny there's a legitime concern of clashing values between European natives and the new communities: YES, TWO THINGS CAN BE TRUTH AT THE SAME TIME), it's still a huge risk for several reasons:

* For a supposedly apolitical event, this is A ENORMOUS hot-button issue: we're not that out of the woods pull something like this.

* Backlash: yeah, we're going to see some of it from some nations: Hungary, Poland, Russia, and if you think this could be only about "backwards" eastern nations, I can actually see some French and Belgium fans being pissed-off and booing at the event. We might argue if they're right or wrong, but you're bringing an unnecessary controversy you could have avoided just to... I don't know, look good? (As if Sweden needed to look even more like a bimbo nation).

* It can still look cheesy and corny: this is Eurovision after all. I can even see some leftists/progressive groups being against this. It would make Sweden look like it's exploiting a VERY REAL crisis with real human suffering, as a propaganda tool. Yeah, let's say it is not, and I think it's not the intention, but I wouldn't be surprised if they not only end up pissing people some right-wingers, but some left-of-the-center guys too.

I'm saying this as a guy that tries to be rational: I don't accept the conservative reality that all refugees are terrorists waiting to exploit the system of their new host nations, but I'm not overly-idealistic either thinking all the race and religious relations are going to go smoothly and with no issues at all. But this, is, once again, an unwanted risk bringing a complex issue to one of the most light-hearted events in the world.

 

[MyHeartIsYours]

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Guilt tripping from some people here lol. What about the lives of Europeans? That's after all who Eurovision's supposed to be for... if the illegal immigrants stayed in their own countries then they'd be alive. I have no sympathy for stupidity. The actual refugees of war from Syria/Libya don't even make-up a majority of the people flooding to Europe, and even then, most of them have gone to Turkey - a country that is on the outskirts of Europe and not in Eurovision.

These illegal immigrants love Europeans who willingly have the wool pulled over their eyes. Fools for the takin, they think. They hate people who stand-up for their country.