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Russia RUSSIA 2018 - Yulia Samoylova - I Won't Break

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Dutchie

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If the song would have better lyrics and a better performance it actually would have had a good chance. I do like the overall song
 

A-lister

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The pictures of Yulia crying are just xshrug

I mean many of the acts that failed to qualify cried, they are just milking the whole handicapped thing to make it look worse. I mean I feel for her and her struggles, I might be critical of the entry and her "vocals" and also some of the political stuff, but it doesn't mean I can't feel for her as a person, but let's not make her less of a person than anyone else though. I think it's actually condescending and dehumanizing that she is used as some sort of symbol or tool.
 

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Ommgggg I feel so sad for Julia, I think that this broadcaster should be really ashamed of itself if they truly rejected all of the songs that she submitted and forced her to choose and sing an entry that didn't fit with her vocals nor her personality.

I hope that it'll get better next year with Russia 1. The latter tends to make some efforts in order to get a decent result at least.
 

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Indeed, it is harsh for all the non qualifiers. UK said the semi finals are brutal. But if you enter you take the risk, get a grip and deal with it.
 

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I feel bad for her indeed but this elimination of :ru: is well-deserved. They just got burned by the fire that they were playing with since the beginning.


It would be very sad if this entry took someone else's place in the final. All the best to her but this just didn't deserve to go through as literally...... everything was bad. To say the least.
 

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Im so disgusted how many people feel sorry for her although she deserved this. Noone feels sorry for Laura, Cristina or Christabelle who could have made it with a bit luck. #nohatejustsayin
 

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Im so disgusted how many people feel sorry for her although she deserved this. Noone feels sorry for Laura, Cristina or Christabelle who could have made it with a bit luck. #nohatejustsayin

Russia provoked the non-qualification on Yulia's expense. They forced everything upon her to make her look bad. She had no say in anything. Russia probably wanted to ruin her and they succeeded. And Russia hates Europe more than ever, so they have an excuse to withdraw. And EBU will see their viewing figures tumble.

Yulya looks like a tool and she did not get it. I am sorry for her.

Laura and Christabelle just failed on a more voluntary level.
 

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Russia provoked the non-qualification on Yulia's expense. They forced everything upon her to make her look bad. She had no say in anything. Russia probably wanted to ruin her and they succeeded. And Russia hates Europe more than ever, so they have an excuse to withdraw. And EBU will see their viewing figures tumble.

Yulya looks like a tool and she did not get it. I am sorry for her.

Laura and Christabelle just failed on a more voluntary level.


Noone forced her to accept this offer. She could reject the whole Esc-Participation from the beginning. But if she accepts this offer, she has to deal with a potential defeat.
 

blein

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By reading 100-300 comments from her video and social media , i can clearly say that people hate her now and hate 1st channel , also they feel ashamed for her performance and mad that they don't have a right to choose the act themselves.
 

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Noone forced her to accept this offer. She could reject the whole Esc-Participation from the beginning. But if she accepts this offer, she has to deal with a potential defeat.

Indeed, but they dared to reject all of her entries.
 

crashworld

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I agree. I feel for Yulia and her circumstance in ESC and that is not because she is a handicapped person. I think any person who has gone through what she has deserved some form of sympathy.

To be honest, I am a fan of the studio cut of the song. If you oversee the diction problems, the song has a very good message that gels with her personal experience in life general. But the problem is that the song does not suits Yulia's vocal abilities. We can see she failed to deliver during the 'live' performances. The staging was a mess. I would have preferred if she just sit in her wheelchair and sing the song out. The mountain analogy is great but they failed in translating the message in the staging. I think she could have potentially qualify if she enters with "A Flame Is Burning", a simple staging could have been effective.

And to the person who said "noone forced her to accept this offer", yes no one did. But it's Eurovision - the biggest musical event in the world, why would she want to throw away this great opportunity?
 

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You know guys, tbh, I have no clue whether she realized she was last year's Kremlin's project or not, but on the day of last year's first semifinal she did go to Crimea illegally again. Nobody forced her to post anti-EU comments on Facebook, she did post them (don't get why she wanted to represent Russia on EUROvision since it is EU-based contest).
BUT! Believe me, everyone (!) hates her now in Russia. Everyone is angry at her. Her whole music career in Russia is ruined. I don't really feel for her for "What goes around comes back around"(c).
 

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Watching their Eurovision final's pre-show on the First Channel for the lulzs and god knows I've got them.

One TV host from their broadcaster: "They didn't allow her to compete last year. They could have allowed her to sing in the final, for heck's sake!" :eek: :lol:
This is the same TV host who created propahandist docu series about North Korea.

They hinted their televoters to vote for Moldova & Norway.



Oh shit! They slammed Conchita... Some female politician: "a bearded "woman" won but a real girl couldn't qualify!"
"Satanic code is being promoted in Europe!" ZOMG! :lol: xrofl
Big amount of hate against Ukraine from the TV host and guests: "They want to destroy the normal world!" :lol:


Another woman: "Lazarev was the real winner. The real winner didn't win. We will never win. This is biased political contest. Ukraine won with the song about Crimean refugees (Refugees?! WTF! Bitch, it's about Stalin henocide. You can't count? 1944? :lol:)".
Their ESC commentator shut that bitch up! Yas!


Yulia is THE most adequate & sweetest person there btw.
:bg: :ru: Kristian Kostov is there as well.
 

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Crazy politician pointing at Yuliya & her husband: "This is a woman and a man! Not parent #1 and not parent #2! Not two men! These are the real family values! And this is how it should be" *huge round of applause & cheers in the studio*.

Yulia tried to object: "this is NOT a contest of family values! It's about music" xkiss




Dayum! They simply force me to vote for :ie: :lol:
 

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This Country tries really everything to destroy its own Reputation more and more and then they cry that nobody likes them xshrug
 

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Watching their TV show on the First Channel dedicated to ESC for the lulzs and god knows I've got them.

One TV host from their broadcaster: "They didn't allow her to compete last year. They could have allowed her to sing in the final, for heck's sake!" :eek: :lol:
This is the same TV host who created propahandist docu series about North Korea.

They hinted their televoters to vote for Moldova & Norway.



Oh shit! They slammed Conchita... Some female politician: "a bearded "woman" won but a real girl couldn't qualify!"
"Satanic code is being promoted in Europe!" ZOMG! :lol: xrofl
Big amount of hate against Ukraine from the TV host and guests: "They want to destroy the normal world!" :lol:


Another woman: "Lazarev was the real winner. The real winner didn't win. We will never win. This is biased political contest. Ukraine won with the song about Crimean refugees (Refugees?! WTF! Bitch, it's about Stalin henocide. You can't count? 1944? :lol:)".
Their commentator shut that bitch down! Yas!


Yulia is THE most adequate & sweetest person there btw.
:bg: :ru: Kristian Kostov is there as well.

I wanna see that. With popcorn.

And subtitles please.

xd
 

Chorizo

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Russia provoked the non-qualification on Yulia's expense. They forced everything upon her to make her look bad. She had no say in anything. Russia probably wanted to ruin her and they succeeded. And Russia hates Europe more than ever, so they have an excuse to withdraw. And EBU will see their viewing figures tumble.

Yulya looks like a tool and she did not get it. I am sorry for her.

Laura and Christabelle just failed on a more voluntary level.

So you feel sorry for her because she is a clueless moron? Is that your point?
 

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So you feel sorry for her because she is a clueless moron? Is that your point?

I would say naive. She sold her dream to Channel One in exchange for getting ruined for life.
 

Chorizo

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I would say naive. She sold her dream to Channel One in exchange for getting ruined for life.

Maybe they were mad at her for actually insisting on participating this year instead of accepting that they never wanted her to be on the Eurovision stage in the first place. What they brought to the stage just doesn't look like a sincere effort at all. If they really meant to get a decent result, they must be deluded enough to think that they can get away with anything.
 

Chorizo

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That crap on Russian TV makes me think of a bully who punches someone and then complains about the victim because he injured his hand while punching.
 
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