Russia RUSSIA 2018 - Yulia Samoylova - I Won't Break

[Nefertiti]

After the rehearsals of her semifinal this year, i think that she will be in the same situation of Alexey Vorobyov to QF, unless that Russian Diaspora stop from this week or next week to support her, she likely will QF on 9th or 10th position, just seeing how , and also doing bad in this rehearsal. Ofc, many jury members will try give a big fat 0 in order to prevent that diaspora televoting help her to QF, just to rise the current Russophobia atmosphere in Europe right now.

But if Monika Kuszyńska QF in 2015, with her average ballad and broken voice, Yulia could too even her song is bit better than Monika's one! That it's not impossible.

Yeah, those hypothetical 0 points of the jury will have nothing to do with the bad vocals, the bad staging and how they're mistreating this girl. I guess when we Spain got the 26th place last year (with 5 points ) was because people in Europe hate flamenco and paella and not because of those awful vocals and generic shitty song.

Oh, by the way, Russia is not getting 0 points this year. Russia is never going to get 0 points, even if they sent a goat dancing to the Harlem Shake. You know what I'm talking about So I believe talking about Russophobia when Russia is by far the most political voted country in Eurovision is a bit crazy.

 

[tuorem]

(aka. Kirkoroland) already confirmed to take part next year, even if Yulia fails to QF.

They ''suppossed'' to send the russian entry this year when Yulia situation happened last year and C1officials talked to Rossiya 1 to allow them to send Yulia just for fulfit their promice.

Hence why Kirkorov went into exile in Moldova this year Smart guy!

 

[John1]

(aka. Kirkoroland) already confirmed to take part next year, even if Yulia fails to QF.

They ''suppossed'' to send the russian entry this year when Yulia situation happened last year and C1officials talked to Rossiya 1 to allow them to send Yulia just for fulfit their promice.

Where did you read that?

 

[Chorizo]

Maybe they are trying to appeal to the European goat community this year. They have a mountain, which goats love, and someone bleating on top of it.

 

[Citelis]

Must be one of the worst stagings ever in Eurovision!

 

[Sabiondo]

Please stop Playing the Victim of Politics, your Country is the biggest Winner of Politics. If Eurovision was an unpolitical Tournament, your country would do worse every single year. And no, its not political to give 0 Points to Russia. Every Jury must give Points to 10 Countries and 0 Points to 7 other Countries. And No Music-Professional can Put Russia higher than lets say 8th-9th Place in this Lineup if hes fair. Monika got 10 Points from the Juries in the Semi and thats what Juia deserves as well at maximum. If Julia represented Switzerland/Austria/Czech Rep. she would be Bottom3 definitely, so dont you think it would be unfair if she qualified only because she represents a Geopolitical mighty Country?

And btw. Poland and especially Romania are worlds better.

I'm not russian, but the main thing is that if another person in wheelchair could make it to the final, then another one could make it too , worse singers have QF to the final with more or less decent songs, It is not Yulia's fault to represent the largest country in the world and has an unfair advantage on behalf of the people who support their country.

But let's see how the justice will work on favor?

 

[Realest]

I'm not russian, but the main thing is that if another person in wheelchair could make it to the final, then another one could make it too , worse singers have QF to the final with more or less decent songs, It is not Yulia's fault to represent the largest country in the world and has an unfair advantage on behalf of the people who support their country.

But let's see how the justice will work on favor?

Then why do you have a Russia-Flag
And why do you support this bad Singer.
And well, Monika was a good singer who could hit the notes and was able to Handle the Language shes singing in, in the Opposite to Yulia.
And which bad Singer managed to qualify in the Past? Without hating, but Yulia is for me the worst Singer who stood on the ESC-Stage.

 

[A-lister]

This will qualify and steal a place in the final from something more worthy simply for being Russia, there's no point in deluding ourselves it won't, but most countries would flop big time with this since the song is a total uninspired bore, the singer is one of the worst live singers in Eurovision of the past decade, the staging, the accent... I can't find anything like-able about this tbh ... but due to diaspora votes (Russia being the main beneficiary now that Turkey is out) and political votes will assure this to qualify

 

[megzpegz]

It's a joke they can just get through with any song just because they are Russia.

 

[Fluke]

Must be one of the worst stagings ever in Eurovision!

It's not the worst if people are talking about it.

 

[Citelis]

It's not the worst if people are talking about it.

Sorry, i didn't understood that!

 

[Geborgenheit]

It's a joke they can just get through with any song just because they are Russia.

It is. I think the solution would be to add Russia to Big4, Big5 or something. Thus, Russia would always qualify automatically and hopefully end in the bottom 5.

 

[Sammy]

It is. I think the solution would be to add Russia to Big4, Big5 or something. Thus, Russia would always qualify automatically and hopefully end in the bottom 5.

How does being prequalified changes the problem of blockvoting and diaspora that Russia benefits from?

 

[Geborgenheit]

How does being prequalified changes the problem of blockvoting and diaspora that Russia benefits from?

It doesn't, but it solves the problem of one stolen final place for countries participating in the same semifinal with Russia.

Juries are not doing their job. They should be responsible for eliminating blockvoting and diaspora votes.

 

[Gordon_Shumway]

Juries are not doing their job. They should be responsible for eliminating blockvoting and diaspora votes.

That's the way it is, but as long as EBU does nothing about it and just ignores the problem, we will have to live with that.
Reminds me a little of football world championship 2022 taking place in Qatar: The whole world knows it's a wrong decision and completely based on corruption, but Qatar gets to host the championship anyway.

 

[blue00eyes]

Juries are not doing their job. They should be responsible for eliminating blockvoting and diaspora votes.

They should be responsible for judging the music, voices, overall quality basing on specific criteria they are given in first place.

 

[Gordon_Shumway]

They should be responsible for judging the music, voices, overall quality basing on specific criteria they are given in first place.

Surely it's a mere coincidence, that the Greek jury comes to the conclusion that the entry from Cyprus has the best quality. EVERY.SINGLE.YEAR.
And quite funny that the Greek entry almost always is the quality favourite of the Cyprus jury.
(Just an example, it's easy to find lots more of those strange coincidences.)

 

[blue00eyes]

Surely it's a mere coincidence, that the Greek jury comes to the conclusion that the entry from Cyprus has the best quality. EVERY.SINGLE.YEAR.
And quite funny that the Greek entry almost always is the quality favourite of the Cyprus jury.
(Just an example, it's easy to find lots more of those strange coincidences.)

Sure it's a joke Demy with no voice and dated song can receive 12pts from jury.. I know they recognise her but 12 is too much.

Julia can get some points from Moldova jury, I can't see any other jury giving her points in 2nd semi

 

[Realest]

Juries are not there to intentionally damage Diasporacountries and help Non-Diasporacountries.

And yes, Demy, Sakis, Eleftheria, Loukas etc.. are famous Stars in Cyprus or sung in Cyprus motherlanguage so they deserved those 12 points. Argo got rightfully only 3 points in the semi and Maria Elena only 5, because they were unknown.

But Julia is a bad singer + no regional Superstar + Her song has nothing to do with common musicculture/language, so I cant see anyone giving her Highpoints.

 

[Iker]

Sure it's a joke Demy with no voice and dated song can receive 12pts from jury.. I know they recognise her but 12 is too much.

Julia can get some points from Moldova jury, I can't see any other jury giving her points in 2nd semi

It's problematic indeed but I find deliberate downvoting year after year conditioned merely by political animosity to be more offensive. Check Armenia - Azerbaijan duo.