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A-lister

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I hope more broadcasters will react, I think we should not give up as fans and try to make this awful rule repealed.

So don't stop writing your broadcasters, sign petition.

We should come up with a counter-suggestion about adding different genres into pots, that's a fair way in making whatever they try to make here.
 

Mickey

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The genre's into pots is still a subjective thing. Which songs would you have put in the same pot as Euphoria last year? Everyone would want that pot and stay as far from Loreen as possible.

I'd prefer drawing songs into fifths of the draw (with the host randomly placed) and letting the producers fiddle from there. There's not a big enough difference between 1st and 5th for them to do any damage under that format.
 

A-lister

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The genre's into pots is still a subjective thing. Which songs would you have put in the same pot as Euphoria last year? Everyone would want that pot and stay as far from Loreen as possible.

I'd prefer drawing songs into fifths of the draw (with the host randomly placed) and letting the producers fiddle from there. There's not a big enough difference between 1st and 5th for them to do any damage under that format.

Of course it would still be subjective, but atleast not as awfully subjective as now where they literary pick the destiny for some entries.

Well, I don't think the producers should have any picks really.
 

aletem

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I guess "Half of Europe (if not more)" means I should especially count on all East European and the Balkan countries to be the worst. Everybody just knows there isn't a single decent person in these countries and everything is run by the mob. I can only imagine how insulting and hurting it must be to hear. No for me it's very simple and old fashioned: Honourable people don't lie, steal or cheat. If they do, shame on them, shame on them. Bless the people that have to live close to shame.
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That's a bit harsh, especially that second underlined part. :shock:
 

aletem

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I don't think this change was necessary. Why fix it, when it ain't broken?
 

Little

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I guess "Half of Europe (if not more)" means I should especially count on all East European and the Balkan countries to be the worst. Everybody just knows there isn't a single decent person in these countries and everything is run by the mob.
Omg, I think you're exaggerating... o___O
 

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So, I'm naive if I assume that everybody in a game play by the rules? Why is it more relevant to assume that everybody is cheating? If it's true what you're saying, why play at all? What is the point and joy in participating if the only thing that matters is how thick your wallet is or the sheer number of your cousins? I guess "Half of Europe (if not more)" means I should especially count on all East European and the Balkan countries to be the worst. Everybody just knows there isn't a single decent person in these countries and everything is run by the mob. I can only imagine how insulting and hurting it must be to hear. No for me it's very simple and old fashioned: Honourable people don't lie, steal or cheat. If they do, shame on them, shame on them. Bless the people that have to live close to shame.

See it as related to sports, you have to assume that the participants are contesting under equal terms. Sure, there will always be some that cheats (or are forced to cheat) and are doped with various means. Eventually they will be caught.

For the part of the statement that I colored in red you will be sanctioned next time if you use it again. Pay attention to the forum rules, and discuss any issues in a nice and polite way without flaggings, accusations and generalizations. Thank you very much.
 

DanielLuis

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That would give the broadcaster a heart attack. Bruno is more interested than anyone else there and I don't think they share his passion.

I actually think many boradcasters are afraid of winning because of the costs of hosting.
I remember that in 2008 after the semi-final, when Portugal rose in the betting odds and was so applauded for Vânia's performance, becoming a favourite, I read a article from a journalist (I think) in Belgrade saying the RTP was going mental (in the bad way) with the idea of winning and then hosting ESC because of the costs.
 
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