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mercachita

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One week later, I finally decided on my ranking for FdC.

Just a little kudos to RTP for what they did for our festival by showcasing how good and professional Portuguese music is nowadays, I mean, for a Portuguese music enthusiast like myself, it's really easy to please me, once I adore more and more our music scene. I am certain that this is the best FdC since 2008, the year I started watching it, so congrats to all the musicians and authors for the magnificent quality of songs we have here. I am really happy for them and especially for us, Portuguese fans, we can actually have a bad result in Basel, but one thing is for sure, we have a lot of options to choose from to represent us very well.

1. Captial da Bulgária - Lisboa ( Sofia's tone is incredible. I'm petrified whenever the song starts playing and she starts singing, it gives me Maro vibes, but I feel like it doesn't have as much power and I understand why it's not getting the attention that “Saudade, Saudade” had.)

2. Napa - Deslocado (I totally understand that people don't see much potential for Eurovision in this song, the truth is that I think it's so beautiful and so genuine that I think if it gets the necessary feeling and emotion it will be able to stay in viewers' memories. They're lovely and great live. - THIS IS A BIG GROWER)

3. Josh - Tristeza ( I think this is the song that will end up winning it will be the one in which both the public and the jury will agree more, I say this of course without knowing how it will be live but thinking about the potential that the studio version has. Josh is an excellent singer and he'll have a great performance. If I had to bet on the winner, this is the one.)

4. Diana Vilarinho - Cotovia (Well, I know Diana's work, and I know that she has an incredible voice and that she is a fado singer who is considered a promising young talent in the genre. This “Cotovia” has everything that is Portugal and Festival da Canção. The chorus is very catchy and I like how the song is defined by the drums with Diana's beautiful voice, final note for one of the best lyrics of the year.)

5. Peculiar - Adamastor (This was my favorite one in the beginning, but the more I listened, the less I liked it, even though I still love it and it's for sure one of my favorites, I just think this one will depend a lot by the performance and I am keeping my expectations low, because I don't think the studio will translate that well on the performance, but let's see.)

6. Bombazine - Apago Tudo (It's got a vibe, it's disco and it's very Portuguese indie, and since that's my genre, there's no way not to like it.)

7. Henka - I wanna destroy u (Yeah, I totally understand the appeal, and what fans see in it, and don't get me wrong for having it in this position, the point is that for me, all the songs above are better and I like them better. It has everything to be something different, but it also has everything to be something that could be sent to any country - which is right and demonstrative of what is being done in Portugal - Henka will destroy the studio and I'm really looking forward to seeing the staging.)

8. Xico Gaiato - Ai Senhor! ( I like it although I feel most times is too repetitive, I don't know what’s coming on the stage, but I am expecting good things)

9. Inês Marques Lucas - Quantos queres (Radio-friendly, catchy, and nice to listen to.)

10. Fernando Daniel - Medo (Yeah, he is growing on me, but just because I watched the videos on social media and I think the live performance will add more texture and emotion to the song because the studio version doesn't give me that much, even though I think it's a nice piece of music and well written don't know if it was another artist it will be a contender to win FdC).

11. Tota - á-tê-xis
12. Rita Sampaio - Voltas
13. Emmy Curl - Rapsódia da Paz (I dislike the rap part. Love the beginning of the song tho)
14. Luca Argel feat. Pri Azevedo - Quem foi?
15. A Cantadeira - Responso à Mulher
16. Du Nothin - Sobre nós
17. Bluay - Ninguém
18. Margarida Campelo - Eu sei que o Amor
19. Marco Rodrigues - A Minha Casa
20. Jéssica Pina - Calafrio
 
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rasmuslights

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One week later, I finally decided on my ranking for FdC.

Just a little kudos to RTP for what they did for our festival by showcasing how good and professional Portuguese music is nowadays, I mean, for a Portuguese music enthusiast like myself, it's really easy to please me, once I adore more and more our music scene. I am certain that this is the best FdC since 2008, the year I started watching it, so congrats to all the musicians and authors for the magnificent quality of songs we have here. I am really happy for them and especially for us, Portuguese fans, we can actually have a bad result in Basel, but one thing is for sure, we have a lot of options to choose from to represent us very well.

1. Captial da Bulgária - Lisboa ( Sofia's tone is incredible. I'm petrified whenever the song starts playing and she starts singing, it gives me Maro vibes, but I feel like it doesn't have as much power and I understand why it's not getting the attention that “Saudade, Saudade” had.)

2. Napa - Deslocado (I totally understand that people don't see much potential for Eurovision in this song, the truth is that I think it's so beautiful and so genuine that I think if it gets the necessary feeling and emotion it will be able to stay in viewers' memories. They're lovely and great live. - THIS IS A BIG GROWER)

3. Josh - Tristeza ( I think this is the song that will end up winning it will be the one in which both the public and the jury will agree more, I say this of course without knowing how it will be live but thinking about the potential that the studio version has. Josh is an excellent singer and he'll have a great performance. If I had to bet on the winner, this is the one.)

4. Diana Vilarinho - Cotovia (Well, I know Diana's work, and I know that she has an incredible voice and that she is a fado singer who is considered a promising young talent in the genre. This “Cotovia” has everything that is Portugal and Festival da Canção. The chorus is very catchy and I like how the song is defined by the drums with Diana's beautiful voice, final note for one of the best lyrics of the year.)

5. Peculiar - Adamastor (This was my favorite one in the beginning, but the more I listened, the less I liked it, even though I still love it and it's for sure one of my favorites, I just think this one will depend a lot by the performance and I am keeping my expectations low, because I don't think the studio will translate that well on the performance, but let's see.)

6. Bombazine - Apago Tudo (It's got a vibe, it's disco and it's very Portuguese indie, and since that's my genre, there's no way not to like it.)

7. Henka - I wanna destroy u (Yeah, I totally understand the appeal, and what fans see in it, and don't get me wrong for having it in this position, the point is that for me, all the songs above are better and I like them better. It has everything to be something different, but it also has everything to be something that could be sent to any country - which is right and demonstrative of what is being done in Portugal - Henka will destroy the studio and I'm really looking forward to seeing the staging.)

8. Xico Gaiato - Ai Senhor! ( I like it although I feel most times is too repetitive, I don't know what’s coming on the stage, but I am expecting good things)

9. Inês Marques Lucas - Quantos queres (Radio-friendly, catchy, and nice to listen to.)

10. Fernando Daniel - Medo (Yeah, he is growing on me, but just because I watched the videos on social media and I think the live performance will add more texture and emotion to the song because the studio version doesn't give me that much, even though I think it's a nice piece of music and well written don't know if it was another artist it will be a contender to win FdC).

11. Tota - á-tê-xis
12. Rita Sampaio - Voltas
13. Emmy Curl - Rapsódia da Paz (I dislike the rap part. Love the beginning of the song tho)
14. Luca Argel feat. Pri Azevedo - Quem foi?
15. A Cantadeira - Responso à Mulher
16. Du Nothin - Sobre nós
17. Bluay - Ninguém
18. Margarida Campelo - Eu sei que o Amor
19. Marco Rodrigues - A Minha Casa
20. Jéssica Pina - Calafrio

damn our tastes are very similar!! Same top 4!!
 

goncalovieira

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She is loosing the hype train... Josh will reach her soon on youtube views.
 

Decayingbooks

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She is loosing the hype train... Josh will reach her soon on youtube views.
It will still take a while, her views have grown by 5k in the last 2 days and Josh 6k, same as Fernando Daniel.
Who may actually reach her is Napa, their growth has actually increased from 30/01 to 31/01 it was 8k but from 31/01 to 01/02 it increased to 10k.
Not to mention that they are well above everyone else on spotify with 122k plays, while Josh has 45k and Henka 35k.

I really don't know what is up with Napa, but while they are having a lot plays in both platforms their engagement on youtube is minimal, not to mention that they haven't made to the Viral chart on Spotify... Something feels odd...
 
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rasmuslights

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It will still take a while, her views have grown by 5k in the last 2 days and Josh 6k, same as Fernando Daniel.
Who may actually reach her is Napa, their growth has actually increased from 30/01 to 31/01 it was 8k but from 31/01 to 01/02 it increased to 10k.
Not to mention that they are well above everyone else on spotify with 122k plays, while Josh has 45k and Henka 35k.

I really don't know what is up with Napa, but while they are having a lot plays in both platforms their engagement on youtube is minimal, not to mention that they haven't made to the Viral chart on Spotify... Something feels odd...

They haven't made it to the Viral chart since they are on the actual chart, you can't be on both charts at the same time.

And about the youtube engagement, I think most of their fans are not eurofans but regular people, who don't necessarily comment under the video.
 

Decayingbooks

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They haven't made it to the Viral chart since they are on the actual chart, you can't be on both charts at the same time.

And about the youtube engagement, I think most of their fans are not eurofans but regular people, who don't necessarily comment under the video.
You can be in both Daily Top Songs and the Daily Viral chart, "DtMF" by Bad Bunny is in both charts at #2, but from I understand the viral chart also includes people sharing a song, basically engagement, so similarly to youtube there's a lot of plays but low engagement.

I think you may be right regarding the demographics, Napa's lyrics video has very low comments but has more likes than Josh, but that worries me. The portuguese eurofandom is divided between Henka and Josh and if the non-fans pull their weight to vote for Napa I fear they can pull a Black Mamba and win the entire thing...
 

rasmuslights

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You can be in both Daily Top Songs and the Daily Viral chart, "DtMF" by Bad Bunny is in both charts at #2, but from I understand the viral chart also includes people sharing a song, basically engagement, so similarly to youtube there's a lot of plays but low engagement.

I think you may be right regarding the demographics, Napa's lyrics video has very low comments but has more likes than Josh, but that worries me. The portuguese eurofandom is divided between Henka and Josh and if the non-fans pull their weight to vote for Napa I fear they can pull a Black Mamba and win the entire thing...

Which I'd be happy about! I think this is way better than Black Mamba even. I think you shouldn't worry, I think you'd do great with this song, especially in a field of Klemens and Red Sebastians.

If they get 8 points from the jury, they most likely win.
 

goncalovieira

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I can not see RTP with desire to send them. We would flop for sure. It is a nice indie pop song but never to be performed in 100% televote semifinal.
 

goncalovieira

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Josh will take both 12 points. And that will be clear after his first performance. If you were impressed with Iolanda's set up, get ready to see Josh.
 

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Napa simply cannot make the top 3 in the jury, with the quality of this festival. The 2021 festival was much inferior. And the The Black Mamba music was more elaborate and classic. Napa is more meaningful music (for people from the islands) and pleasing to the ear. but that's just it

If Feranando Daniel doesn't mobilize his fans, and if Napa manages to do so (with a good performance) he could perhaps get 12 points, but will he be enough to do it? I have my serious doubts.

Comparing Napa to João Borsch just because he is from Madeira is misleading, João Borsh had a large number of fans on the continent and within the fanESC bubble.
It's not like someone from wood can simply have the Geolier effect of Sanremo from last year

Josh just has to get the vote of the older audience and less Eurovison fans and he will be the winner unless Henka is a total knockout and achieves incredible success in the jury (Conan style)
 

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Has it ever happened that a televote winner only got 4/5 points from the jury?
NEEV "Dancing in the Stars" ( FdC 2021)

received 5 from the jury and 12 from the televote

some possible justifications are: he was very nervous and it felt that way in his voice, perhaps not for a common viewer, but for those who are there to evaluate, he was not perfect vocally and two he sang in English
 

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NEEV "Dancing in the Stars" ( FdC 2021)

received 5 from the jury and 12 from the televote

some possible justifications are: he was very nervous and it felt that way in his voice, perhaps not for a common viewer, but for those who are there to evaluate, he was not perfect vocally and two he sang in English
Three, his song wasn't very good and he only won the televoting because the Portuguese fandom back then was desperate to send a song in English...

I agree that the juries will most likely save us from NAPA's victory. It's a nice song, but aside from the lyrics it's really nothing special and there's much more on offer in this selection. JOSH seems like the most likely winner to me at this point, he will score well with both votes.
 
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