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Italy ITALY 2015 - Il Volo - Grande amore

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sapsan

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Seems like now there're no any real televoting or jury. Everything decides bookies. Just look how exactly they predicted TOP-5. And they were not wrong with the winner since Azerbaijan won the ESC.
The winner is Italy!!. Spain is second. Latvia - third.
 

nperkooo5

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But I wonder if bookies predict this scenario (Italy win televoting, but probably too many votes for Sweden in juries) or had they just bit of luck this year.
 

GWTW1939

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But I wonder if bookies predict this scenario (Italy win televoting, but probably too many votes for Sweden in juries) or had they just bit of luck this year.

I don't know if the bookies predicted that scenario but they had to have known something because after the jury performances Sweden starting shortening drastically while Italy really started to drift. So they knew something
 

DaFlo

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besides the scandalous results I have to say something

I wasnt a fan from this song, I more or less disliked it from the point it was chosen, then it grew on me a bit till Eurovsion but the performance yesterday clearly won me over, this was soooo good! :oops::)
 

lacrymea

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Why have the the juries if they aren't allowed to vote for the act they want?? Whooooo we need to vote what the televoters vote for ...the juries simple didn't like the italian song that much. Accept your defeat and move on.

1st of all, i didn't vote for Italy or Sweden. So i'm sort of impartial here.

Juries are there to rank a song according to some very specific criteria: composition, orquestration, vocals, staging and overall performance. That's it. Taste isn't one of the items, SO NO, they shouldn't vote for song A or B just cause they like it better. If they vote mainly according to their own taste (not to mention some not so well hidden agenda, but let's no get into that): how are they any different from televoting or why should their taste over rule millions of other different tastes???
 

GWTW1939

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5th best televoting result of all time!!! Even bigger then the fanboys St. Loreen :D

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lacrymea

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I don't know if the bookies predicted that scenario but they had to have known something because after the jury performances Sweden starting shortening drastically while Italy really started to drift. So they knew something

I've been saying this all along in the Big Final thread: bookies nowadays rule the competition. Bookies and their odds set the pace and everyone plays along with that. Period. Were the top3 songs this year so massively head and shoulders above the rest? No. They weren't. So how come 90% of the 40 countries (with complete different cultural backgrounds and taste for that matter) share the exact same top3? Yeah, sure. Nothing fishy going on here at all...
 

nperkooo5

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I don't know if the bookies predicted that scenario but they had to have known something because after the jury performances Sweden starting shortening drastically while Italy really started to drift. So they knew something

Well yea, but how could bookies possibly know more then us?
 

Krishoes

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People, I love your support and warmth (grazie mille with all my heart) but we can't do anything about it. I'm still shocked 'cause this time Europe hadn't any doubt about who deserved to win but the rules are these and we have to accept them (this year, at least!) as done the previous years. I don't like to see so much hate against :se:, 'cause as already said yesterday I don't think that they have any faults for this result, but that's my opinion.

I'm looking forward to live in Sweden my second Eurovision, they will do a perfect job for sure. This experience in Vienna for me has been full of emotions, laughs, new friends and although we didn't win last night I was so happy and full of gratitude for this great contest I will always love.

I'm actually glad for one main reason: many people in these weeks said that :it: 2015 was like :fr: 2011 ("This will flop" and so on) but yesterday all these bad things have been denied categorically. Grazie Europa.
 

conmar

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I've been saying this all along in the Big Final thread: bookies nowadays rule the competition. Bookies and their odds set the pace and everyone plays along with that. Period. Were the top3 songs this year so massively head and shoulders above the rest? No. They weren't. So how come 90% of the 40 countries (with complete different cultural backgrounds and taste for that matter) share the exact same top3? Yeah, sure. Nothing fishy going on here at all...

E x a c t l y this! HOW POSSIBLE could this be???
 

GRE

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Congratulations to Italy for the massive victory in televoting !
Europe decided to give the price to Grande Amore by a landside.
I don't give a sh!t about those corrupted juries.


oh, and by the way,
to a very arrogant person here...

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SuperGirl

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Lol, Sweden blows Italy out of water in the charts. Where are the voters??? I mean Italy is only #1 in one country in on Itunes. If it's so good song why no one wants to listen to it? No I feel people only voted on Italy to destroy Sweden's and Russia's chances.fishy.
 

conmar

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Lol, Sweden blows Italy out of water in the charts. Where are the voters??? I mean Italy is only #1 in one country in on Itunes. If it's so good song why no one wants to listen to it? No I feel people only voted on Italy to destroy Sweden's and Russia's chances.fishy.

!!!!Gosh!Come on!!!Give all these thousands of voters some credit!!!!!!
 

SuperGirl

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!!!!Gosh!Come on!!!Give all these thousands of voters some credit!!!!!!

Why?? You don't give the juries any credit. People think they are corrupt. BTW, the juries were probably corrupt when Italy won 1964 and 1990 right?
 

Krishoes

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Lol, Sweden blows Italy out of water in the charts. Where are the voters??? I mean Italy is only #1 in one country in on Itunes. If it's so good song why no one wants to listen to it? No I feel people only voted on Italy to destroy Sweden's and Russia's chances.fishy.

You won, there are no reasons to act like that. Happiness for your winner is enough! Stop it for God's sake!!! xlove
 

makkillottu

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Why?? You don't give the juries any credit. People think they are corrupt. BTW, the juries were probably corrupt when Italy won 1964 and 1990 right?

Let's talk in 6 months... and we'll see who will collect more Platinum and Gold single certifications!
 

conmar

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Why?? You don't give the juries any credit. People think they are corrupt. BTW, the juries were probably corrupt when Italy won 1964 and 1990 right?

Maybe because the juries in total were just 200 people...........?
 

SuperGirl

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Maybe because the juries in total were just 200 people...........?

So what they counts? So all the ESC winners before the televoting are worse or what? So the juries don't deserve credit because they are 200?

Italy's winners in 1964 and 1990 don't mean anything?
 

SuperGirl

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Let's talk in 6 months... and we'll see who will collect more Platinum and Gold single certifications!

Lol, Sweden blow Italy out of water in the charts. In itunes Italy is #1 in only one country! but Sweden is #1 in 20 countries already. Good luck Il Volo to get platinum and gold singles. They really need it.
 
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