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Italy ITALY 2015 - Il Volo - Grande amore

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    164 40.3%
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    47 11.5%
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    39 9.6%
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    27 6.6%
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    19 4.7%
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    9 2.2%
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    43 10.6%

  • Total voters
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niko

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[MENTION=14000]SuperGirl[/MENTION], maybe if you didn't repeat the same shit again and again, somebody would actually take you seriously.
 

EDC0708

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Although I preferred Sweden's entry to Italy's, I think Italy was the true winner this year. Juries were supposedly introduced to reduce block voting, but the block voting was largely still very apparent last night, and a country which benefits little from block voting lost out on a victory. I would certainly be annoyed if I had spent money voting for Italy. Maybe the 50/50 system should be modified next year to give the televoting more weight.
 

sucof

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I wonder if that's why Italy didn't win this year...but I won't elaborate because I don't want to be THAT suspicious..

RAI is the second or third contributor EBU.
So that Italy participate or not participate, win or not win, RAI spend money to organize the eurovision!
 

oxy333

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Great audience result for RAI 2!

Just a question: Ever happened before in ESC that the winner wasn't the televoting winner?

Please, don't compare Sanremo to ESC, are two different world thank GOD, except that ESC was born on Sanremo stamp.
Sanremo has a totally different system of selection: demoscopic jury 30% expert jury 30% and 40% televoting.
 

EDC0708

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Great audience result for RAI 2!

Just a question: Ever happened before in ESC that the winner wasn't the televoting winner?

Please, don't compare Sanremo to ESC, are two different world thank GOD, except that ESC was born on Sanremo stamp.
Sanremo has a totally different system of selection: demoscopic jury 30% expert jury 30% and 40% televoting.

2011 if you exclude San Marino's jury results from the televote column, with them the winner is the same
 

Sultana

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Hail to Italia! True winne of EUROVISION SONG CONTEST!
People can't lie about :it: win. More than 80 points difference between 1st and 2nd place. Fuck you, :se: and your bought victory. ( I like Mans song, but :se: victory seems to me not so fair)
 

makkillottu

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IL VOLO:

https://www.facebook.com/ilvolomusic?fref=photo

So, they know that they're true winners.

Exactly.

The point is: we don't need a glass microphone to know we're first. :lol: :lol: We are and that's it. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Worldwide sellings of their song will prove it. Furthermore, they're almost 30 million views on YouTube (combining VEVO and ESC channel). Only big stars raise these numbers!!! The Swedish "winner" got the official videoclip up from late february as well... and here he is: around 2 millions...

He needs only 28 millions more, even pausing Grande Amore's counter... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Real-time comparision:
ITALY 29.807.939
SWEDEN 4.988.905

Quite embarrassing.
 

GermanBango

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Exactly.

The point is: we don't need a glass microphone to know we're first. :lol: :lol: We are and that's it. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Worldwide sellings of their song will prove it. Furthermore, they're almost 30 million views on YouTube (combining VEVO and ESC channel). Only big stars raise these numbers!!! The Swedish "winner" got the official videoclip up from late february as well... and here he is: around 2 millions...

He needs only 28 millions more, even pausing Grande Amore's counter... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Real-time comparision:
ITALY 29.807.939
SWEDEN 4.988.905

Quite embarrassing.

Still Sweden is the official winner of the 60. Eurovision Song Contest - there is no doubt at all, listing some numbers will not change anything. All participating countries agreed on the current voting system and Italy was even one of the countries that just came back because of the juries. It is how it is, we have to accept that.
I can understand that you guys feel gutted but throwing shit at other nations/participant is just not right - it's pathetic and disrespectful.
 

makkillottu

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Still Sweden is the official winner of the 60. Eurovision Song Contest - there is no doubt at all, listing some numbers will not change anything. All participating countries agreed on the current voting system and Italy was even on of the countries that just came back because of the juries. It is how it is, we have to accept that.
I can understand that you guys feel gutted but throwing shit at other nations/participant is just not right - it's pathetic and disrespectful.

I'm talking about data. They have advertisement revenues from almost 30 million views from Google, Sweden from less than 5. That's marketing.
And I don't wanna talk about how much money they earn every year, because this should be even more embarrassing to compare.

Have fun with the glass thing, Mans.
 

GermanBango

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I'm talking about data. They have advertisement revenues from almost 30 million views from Google, Sweden from less than 5. That's marketing.
And I don't wanna talk about how much money they earn every year, because this should be even more embarrassing to compare.

Have fun with the glass thing, Mans.

Yeah right but this is the Eurovision Song Contest and not the How-much-Money-do-they-get-Contest.
As I said, I can understand your anger ... I really do but nobody likes sore losers.
 

greece

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B E S T P E R F O R M A N C E! Amazing, amazing just amazing. Their performance was flawless.They have the best voices, they have the best song, they were simple the best. They were enough to break the aliance between Greece and Cyprus and that says a lot. The winners of my heart and no one can change that. Congrats for the 3rd place Italy you were awesome xheart


I heard from many they came 1st at televoting can someone confirm that cause I can't found it anywhere
Edit: The came first and with actually one more point from Sweden's total. Forza Italia xheart
 

makkillottu

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Yeah right but this is the Eurovision Song Contest and not the How-much-Money-do-they-get-Contest.
As I said, I can understand your anger ... I really do but nobody likes sore losers.

Record labels sees the Eurovision exactly like this: How-much-Money-do-we-get-Contest.
 

GWTW1939

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That won't happen. More than 3 million people watched the grand final last night in Italy so obviously there is interest. I'm sure Italian broadcaster will be more than happy to participate next year.

But all those people watched hoping to see Il Volo win, they were 100% behind them. And when they see their act won the televote in a landside and then lost because of some jury that clearly had an agenda in mind I seriously doubt they will be happy.

I wouldn't be surprised if the attitude would be "We sent this great entry and we still didn't win, we lost to some stick man gimmick. If we didn't win now we never will, ESC is crap" It could do more harm then good xshrug


And people need to STOP saying Sweden won the televote in 2011 because the official EBU says Azerbaijan did and that's what matters! Unless you want to admit that the EBU isn't being fair
 

FilipFromSweden

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Hail to Italia! True winne of EUROVISION SONG CONTEST!
People can't lie about :it: win. More than 80 points difference between 1st and 2nd place. Fuck you, :se: and your bought victory. ( I like Mans song, but :se: victory seems to me not so fair)

You are being quite rude right now. Sweden did not buy the victory, you have nothing to base your argument on. If you wanna complain about Italy being the real winner then complain about EBU and their jury system. Sweden won fair and square, if Italy deserved it more is another discussion
 
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