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Italy ITALY 2015 - Il Volo - Grande amore

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SuperGirl

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Yes, PLEASE do so.

Yes I hope so too! Bad losers aren't welcome in ESC!!! If they can't accept the rules then why participate at all? Especially when they didn't complained about the rules before. Should Italy quit San Remo too?? Because Il Vilo didn't won the juries there either.

PLEASE!!!! Kick out bad loser as Italy out from the contest!!!!!!
 

bstream

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Italy is setting the roadmap for the Big 5's success! If they only they paid attention lol
 

Ellen

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Yes I hope so too! Bad losers aren't welcome in ESC!!! If they can't accept the rules then why participate at all? Especially when they didn't complained about the rules before. Should Italy quit San Remo too?? Because Il Vilo didn't won the juries there either.

PLEASE!!!! Kick out bad loser as Italy out from the contest!!!!!!

You're annoying. If you have something to say, please say it without acting like a 5 year-old baby.
 

daniels1000

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Classy. Grandiose. Magnificent.

In short what Italy has done on the stage yesterday. Obviously people have recognized that.
 

SuperGirl

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You're annoying. If you have something to say, please say it without acting like a 5 year-old baby.

Lol, and should come from you italian fans who are crying as babies because Sweden won ahead of you crappy, overrated song??? Ha ha ha!!

This how this forum is now and especially this thread:

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ag89

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This is scandal! Italy should withdraw and don't come back until the voting procedure is changed.

That won't happen. More than 3 million people watched the grand final last night in Italy so obviously there is interest. I'm sure Italian broadcaster will be more than happy to participate next year.
 

niko

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There will always be people against the voting system.

Because the voting system is unfair from the beginning. It's unfair that some "experts" have more liberty in voting than others in a democratic and "equal" Europe.

#PowerToThePeople
 

watersoup

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Lol, and should come from you italian fans who are crying as babies because Sweden won ahead of you crappy, overrated song??? Ha ha ha!!

And you could go to the main thread for the show or the Sweden thread to celebrate but instead you go to the thread of one of your rivals to cry about the fact some people (who are mostly not even Italian) are not happy with the result?

Building Bridges.
 

SuperGirl

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Because the voting system is unfair from the beginning. It's unfair that some "experts" have more liberty in voting than others in a democratic and "equal" Europe.

#PowerToThePeople

If it's so unfair why didn't people complain about the voting system before the contest?? All participating countries know the rules before the contest. So because your fave didn't win then the system is unfair?? Lol. Even with 100% televoting people would complain because of diaspora/neighbour voting.

Lol, I gave your post a "like" by accident.
 

toinou03

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Any true winner drama ? :rolleyes:

Well, anyway, I think that :it: would have deserved it more. It's the second time jury and televote disagree, but it went for the televote in 2011, and now it's the contrary.
But the shocking point is that :it: would have won 80 points ahead of Russia and 87 ahead of Sweden. I can't understand why Italy did so bad with the Juries.
 

niko

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If it's so unfair why didn't people complain about the voting system before the contest?? All participating countries know the rules before the contest. So because your fave didn't win then the system is unfair?? Lol. Even with 100% televoting people would complain because of diaspora/neighbour voting.

Lol, I gave your post a "like" by accident.

We complain, but nobody was listening, because accidents like that didn't happen till now. At the moment we have more arguments to dislike the system even more.
Neither Russia or Italy were my faves. My fave was Estonia, so you can't put that argument on me.
 

niko

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Any true winner drama ? :rolleyes:

Well, anyway, I think that :it: would have deserved it more. It's the second time jury and televote disagree, but it went for the televote in 2011, and now it's the contrary.
But the shocking point is that :it: would have won 80 points ahead of Russia and 87 ahead of Sweden. I can't understand why Italy did so bad with the Juries.

True, but the jury impact was different back in 2011.
 

SuperGirl

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We complain, but nobody was listening, because accidents like that didn't happen till now. At the moment we have more arguments to dislike the system even more.
Neither Russia or Italy were my faves. My fave was Estonia, so you can't put that argument on me.

It happened 2011. The juries didn't agree with the televoting.

Also still the participating countries agreed with the rules. Everyone should know the possibly that juries/Televoting disagree. I mean it happenens often in the national finals.

Sweden won fair with the rules there were in this years contest. Do the juries have to big power? Maybe, but there's something to discuss to next ESC. It doesn't means Sweden won undeservely. Sweden did what we needed to do to win ESC 2015. Italy was to low with the juries to win ESC with 50/50 system. That's why they didn't won.
 

Terence

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I still can't believe how badly this was treated by the juries... them of all people who are supposed to be musical experts.
I may be biased, but really... not top 5? Favouring Sweden? Now Sweden had a great package all in all, but I can't help not thinking something fishy was going on... call me cynical.
 

busybee

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It happened 2011. The juries didn't agree with the televoting.

In 2011 Azerbaijan had won televoting, albeit by a very small margin...and a third country (Italy) had won the jury vote. Sure, that had sent Italy 2nd but it didn't make them win. As for Sweden, they had won neither televoting nor jury vote so they could hardly complain.

This year the thing is that there's a huge difference between Italy and Sweden in televoting - and the exact opposite in jury voting. So, one of the two has to be deaf - either the public or the juries.
 

Bradamante

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How do they say in Sweden? The winner takes it all? Ok.. Enjoy! I don't think an unfair victory will do any good to Sweden reputation in the contest or to the Eurovision contest itself. Baci dall'Italia!
 

busybee

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May I ask what are the reactions in Italy today? Do Il Volo know that they won televoting by a huge margin?
 

sucof

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May I ask what are the reactions in Italy today? Do Il Volo know that they won televoting by a huge margin?

sincerely in Italy does not mention anyone.
Nothing on the official websites of the flight, in the newspapers and on TV.
They just broke the news that Sweden won the third and Italy.
In Italy is not 'very interests that the eurovision!nobody cares
 

busybee

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sincerely in Italy does not mention anyone.
Nothing on the official websites of the flight, in the newspapers and on TV.
They just broke the news that Sweden won the third and Italy.
In Italy is not 'very interests that the eurovision!

I wonder if that's why Italy didn't win this year...but I won't elaborate because I don't want to be THAT suspicious..
 

SuperGirl

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How do they say in Sweden? The winner takes it all? Ok.. Enjoy! I don't think an unfair victory will do any good to Sweden reputation in the contest or to the Eurovision contest itself. Baci dall'Italia!

Really??? How was the victory unfair?? If Italy did not like the rules why do you participate at all? The rules are 50% jury and 50% televoting. Don't you like it?? Well then don't participate. Would it be fair if Italy won despite being 6th in jury voting?? I think people would have complain against Italy in that case too.Don't say they vote against italy because Il Volo did not win jury vote in Italy either.
 
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