In the semi Turkey was #2 among the juries and Sweden was 11th? Bad juries?
Yes, because that was Sweden's best attempt in years.
In the semi Turkey was #2 among the juries and Sweden was 11th? Bad juries?
There shouldn't be a jury because the will of the people ought to be respected. Holland, a nation with certainly no considerable dispora, actually were in the finals this year with televoting. I hated their song but Europe wanted them to qualify. Why should the taste of those 100 people count more?
I'd embrace if other broadcasters followed suit (and maybe TRT has encouraged them).
Most broadcasters agree with the jury system. ONly those with the unfair advantage such as Turkey has a problem with it.
at least, you don't like Turkey and we know it. in 2011, we got a higher place in televoting than we did in the juries. right? and remember last year? we were 4th in televoting and 22nd in the juries. what a huge difference...
Source?
Before we won Eurovision our media also said that nobody likes Germany, but in the end it didn't matter for winning the ESC. Could it be that the songs you sent weren't as liked throughout Europe as the televote wants you to believe? The question one has to answer ist the following: Do we want to vote for the artists due to sympathy for the country or the quality of the music? The juries have definitely reduced the impact of diaspora voting which is just fair.
BTWTRT is the only EBU member in Turkey,right? So nobody else could take over?
I'm done with the jury discussion in here.
Now, EBU has to solve this problem with Turkey. Maybe it would be better to change at least the system with the automatic qualification of the BIG 5 countries in the final or not to have the juries voting, at least in the semi-finals. EBU has to do something because Turkey might won't be in next year too! But with a change rule, especially for the automatic qualifications of the BIG 5 countries, then we may have reactions from the BIG 5 countries, I believe especially from Germany & Italy...
Now, EBU has to solve this problem with Turkey. Maybe it would be better to change at least the system with the automatic qualification of the BIG 5 countries in the final or not to have the juries voting, at least in the semi-finals. EBU has to do something because Turkey might won't be in next year too! But with a change rule, especially for the automatic qualifications of the BIG 5 countries, then we may have reactions from the BIG 5 countries, I believe especially from Germany & Italy...
And 12 points from Azerbaïdjan go to Ukraine !
That's what i've been writing but being ignored.Maybe juries voting and the automatic qualification of the BIG 5 countries are just excuses. Maybe Turkey's withdrawal is for another things.