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TURKEY 2013 - not taking part

Matt

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There shouldn't be a jury because the will of the people ought to be respected. Holland, a nation with certainly no considerable dispora, actually were in the finals this year with televoting. I hated their song but Europe wanted them to qualify. Why should the taste of those 100 people count more?
I'd embrace if other broadcasters followed suit (and maybe TRT has encouraged them).

Most broadcasters agree with the jury system. ONly those with the unfair advantage such as Turkey has a problem with it. But as I said, this is not the right topic to discuss the purpose of juries in general. (unrelated to Turkey)

I'm still sad Turkey is out but maybe a year watching from the sideline this year will help them to vent and just come back in 2014 refreshed and with something really awesome.
 

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at least, you don't like Turkey and we know it. in 2011, we got a higher place in televoting than we did in the juries. right? and remember last year? we were 4th in televoting and 22nd in the juries. what a huge difference...

Before we won Eurovision our media also said that nobody likes Germany, but in the end it didn't matter for winning the ESC. Could it be that the songs you sent weren't as liked throughout Europe as the televote wants you to believe? The question one has to answer ist the following: Do we want to vote for the artists due to sympathy for the country or the quality of the music? The juries have definitely reduced the impact of diaspora voting which is just fair.
 

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I think TRT is highly misunderstood at this point. They don't want solely televoting but what they're standing up against is "the intention" of including the juries in the first place. (that's my inference, having read the official article) They think the jury system was brought forward as an attempt to save the so-called "BIG 5". They didn't imply they want juries out and the result being merely dependant on televoting.
 

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Before we won Eurovision our media also said that nobody likes Germany, but in the end it didn't matter for winning the ESC. Could it be that the songs you sent weren't as liked throughout Europe as the televote wants you to believe? The question one has to answer ist the following: Do we want to vote for the artists due to sympathy for the country or the quality of the music? The juries have definitely reduced the impact of diaspora voting which is just fair.

Nobody likes Turkey. I'm stick to that. and when you have a good song, yes, you win. ;)
 

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BTWTRT is the only EBU member in Turkey,right? So nobody else could take over?

Yes, it unfortunately is the only one. :/
 

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The excuses of TRT are complete bxllshxt! If you don't send somebody mighty,you don't get high points! Even with that,Turkey didn't get low marks.
TRT only wants it because of their fxcing religion.
 

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Wrong decision from Turkey and what a bad behavior, only 1 day before the deadline of the applications of interest from all the countries to do that awful announcement, from one of the most successful countries in this contest. It's a pity! :( :mad: :twisted:
 

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Now, EBU has to solve this problem with Turkey. Maybe it would be better to change at least the system with the automatic qualification of the BIG 5 countries in the final or not to have the juries voting, at least in the semi-finals. EBU has to do something because Turkey might won't be in next year too! But with a change rule, especially for the automatic qualifications of the BIG 5 countries, then we may have reactions from the BIG 5 countries, I believe especially from Germany & Italy...
 

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Now, EBU has to solve this problem with Turkey. Maybe it would be better to change at least the system with the automatic qualification of the BIG 5 countries in the final or not to have the juries voting, at least in the semi-finals. EBU has to do something because Turkey might won't be in next year too! But with a change rule, especially for the automatic qualifications of the BIG 5 countries, then we may have reactions from the BIG 5 countries, I believe especially from Germany & Italy...

Exactly, the Big 5 won't accept any change in the automatic qualification as they have to pay the most for the contest. I don't see any reason to change the system only because of Turkey. They are welcome to participate, but if they don't want to, it's their problem.
 

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Now, EBU has to solve this problem with Turkey. Maybe it would be better to change at least the system with the automatic qualification of the BIG 5 countries in the final or not to have the juries voting, at least in the semi-finals. EBU has to do something because Turkey might won't be in next year too! But with a change rule, especially for the automatic qualifications of the BIG 5 countries, then we may have reactions from the BIG 5 countries, I believe especially from Germany & Italy...

Why no juries in the semi-final?
In 2010 Turkey was ranked high by the judges... ok in 2011 not but also not in televoting
I think when you erase the Big 5, then some countries of Big 5 will withdraw
 

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And 12 points from Azerbaïdjan go to Ukraine !

Ahhhh enough with this please. its not even funny anymore. Annnnnd 12 points from Norway go to..... oh what a surprise Sweden. And 12 points from Iceland go to ...... another big shock Norway! Hello Denmark, ya ya 12 points to Sweden ......

Block voting is Scandinavian invention so, ppl from Eastern Europe always want to follow european model.

Nobody talk how much times Turkey was unfairly underrated in past times. They was always at the bottom and that was ok for everybody. In last decade they really care for ESC, and send very good songs, so they deserved every fu**** points.

They are modern and catchy, unlike BBC for example who is captured in ancient history
 

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Maybe juries voting and the automatic qualification of the BIG 5 countries are just excuses. Maybe Turkey's withdrawal is for another things.
 
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