Who will be the big west-european flop of 2010?

[wittgenstein]

To be clear, western countries are: (as per NGS)

Austria
Belgium
Denmark
Finland
France
Germany
Iceland
Ireland
Italy
Netherlands
Norway
Portugal
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
United Kingdom

ok, then i guess everyone except germany, sweden and belgium (and maybe norway) will fail eurovision 2010.

 

[ParadiseES]

Well, when someone is supposed to fail, like UK, Portugal or Netherlands this year, I don't think that could be considered a real flop

So I think the only flops will be Denmark and Iceland (maybe France too)

 

[rjb99]

To be a flop there needs to be some expectation that the entry will do well. The U.K have no expectation that they will come anywhere other than last, and so anything better than last will be considered an achievement. Also in this category would be the Netherlands (which will only do well only if people have no choice other than to vote for Holland, presumably at gun point) and France, who seem to have got confused and entered a world cup jingle by mistake.

As for the real flop, I'd be concerned about Denmark: it's very good but I can't see it having that wide an appeal and so, given that it has consistently been (according to the bookies) in the top five, this could well and truly flop.

 

[Azer]

Switzerland

 

[ithanspain]

First flop confirmed:


SLOVAKIA -sk


And now waiting for the flop of Denmark will it be in the semifinal...? :roll:

 

[lucian-crusher]

Next ones will be -dk and -de!

 

[ithanspain]

This is what is happening:


-Next one to fall...???

-It should be DENMARK -dk...

-Why?

-We must let off space in the Final for the countries from political voting, like Russia.

-Ok, Mr. Eurovision.

 

[lucian-crusher]

I just have a bad feeling that -hr will flop in the Semifinal and if that happens I don't know if I can manage to survive!

 

[MyHeartIsYours]

^ They will qualify for sure!

 

[FallenAngelII]

I just have a bad feeling that -hr will flop in the Semifinal and if that happens I don't know if I can manage to survive!

The juries will save them even if the televoting viewers shun them.

 

[Isabella]

I just have a bad feeling that -hr will flop in the Semifinal and if that happens I don't know if I can manage to survive!

What??? Nooooooooo, don't say that :evil:
I'm sure we will qualify, you're probably saying this because of Slovakia, but Feminnem know how to sing, unlike Kristina
Slovakia has had a bad performance, the girl was shaking from fear all the time, and it is no wonder that they didn't qualify.

 

[manialf]

I fear it might turn out to be us.... *scared*

 

[Deltage]

I think Sweden will get lost in all the other ballads since it doesn't really seem to stand out. And of course if Germany doesn't come in top 3 or something like that then everyone will say it's a flop since they are such big favorites.

 

[FallenAngelII]

I think Sweden will get lost in all the other ballads since it doesn't really seem to stand out. And of course if Germany doesn't come in top 3 or something like that then everyone will say it's a flop since they are such big favorites.

For the last time, Sweden cannot be seen as a big Western flop seeing as how no one (bookmakers, non-Swedish or Norwegian Eurovision columnists or experts) is predicting it to win or even do well! It can't be a giant flop if we already expect it to do badly!

 

[Deltage]

I think Sweden will get lost in all the other ballads since it doesn't really seem to stand out. And of course if Germany doesn't come in top 3 or something like that then everyone will say it's a flop since they are such big favorites.

For the last time, Sweden cannot be seen as a big Western flop seeing as how no one (bookmakers, non-Swedish or German Eurovision columnists or experts) is predicting it to win or even do well! It can't be a giant flop if we already expect it to do badly!

I don't really follow bookmakers or any other predictions, so I'm not familiar with that. I only hear about the favorites when they get talked about a lot, like Germany this year. Not that I'm surprised that Sweden isn't a favorite.

 

[FallenAngelII]

I don't really follow bookmakers or any other predictions, so I'm not familiar with that. I only hear about the favorites when they get talked about a lot, like Germany this year. Not that I'm surprised that Sweden isn't a favorite.

Regarding Germany, I meant to write Norwegian in my last post (hence edited).

The only people the Swedes are a favourite for is the Norwegians (and even then it's just scattered interest from a few "experts"), the Swedes (because we're all clueless Schlager bumpkins who always think we're going to take Eurovision by storm with our clearly BS entry) and a few misguided fans here on ESCForums. Every single year, there's this entry I know will fail that a whole bunch of fans insist will do well and which wins one or two (or even many) polls or at least do really well in the polls.

In 2008 it was Charlotte Perelli (the Korean cat alien who'd had bothed facial reconstruction surgery, because, really, what was up with that make-up?!), last year it was Finland (really, Eurodance with a guy who looks 40 rapping and female singers who are often borderline off-tune and screechy) and this year it's Sweden yet again (really, a ballad among 30 or so ballads with a girl who's 18 but who sounds like she's 40 and possibly a man where the stage show is just that same girl standing around swaying while fake-playing her guitar while clad in some demented pantyhose-skirt-converse combo. I mean, so what if there's gonna be 15,000 glowsticks used in the audience? If the television audience has already tuned her out after 30 seconds because of how interminably boring her entry is, they're not gonna be magically jolted out of their stupor by glowsticks in the refrain!).

It's like Christer Björkman is willfully ignorant. Year after year we send entries where the stage-show is a bit of pacing back and forth and swaying. It does not work at Eurovision unless your ballad is a really powerful power ballad that's epic and full of strings and piano and heart and love or something. Otherwise, even a ballad needs more than just the performer swaying a bit to the music (at least on the Eurovision stage)! And when Sweden chose Anna to fail, the rest of Europe had already made up their mind (wasn't Sweden the very last country to elect its representative?) so we already knew Sweden would be one among 30 bajillion ballads!

Seriously, Sweden is not a front-runner. Sweden will not be a "Surprise flop". Sweden not qualifying will not be a giant shocker. At least not unless you're not a Swede, a Norwegian commentator/expert or a ESCForum member who thinks the televoters and juries will be hypnotized by the glowsticks.

 

[Deltage]

Calm down, lol. I never thought they were a favorite and personally I don't think the song is anything special. I just looked at the list of the participants and tried to remember the western songs and what place they might get. Besides, I'm not that interested in ESC anyway, I usually only like one or few songs every year and to the rest I don't really pay attention.

By the way, I liked last year's Finnish track, but I don't know why they chose such a typical and unoriginal stage presentation that is totally different from their music video. But then again I was familiar with this project already and I've listened to similar Finnish electronic music before. And since my actual music taste is very different from the typical ESC style, usually none of the songs I like get high placings.

 

[FallenAngelII]

It should be noted that my predictions of how well entries will do have absolutely nothing to do with my personal feelings for the entries. I base my predictions entirely on how the Eurovision voters have voted in the past (and since last year, how I predict the professional juries will vote).

That said, I'm guessing the OP included all of the Western European entries as to not enrage anyone for not including their favourite Western entry as a favourite, but we should limit the discussion to those who are favourites, because, really, it won't be a "Big Western European Flop" if, say, Spain flops because we all know it will and absolutely no one besides perhaps the Andorrans (and the Spaniards themselves) have it as their favourite.

 

[Deltage]

Are there any actual big western favorites at all, besides Germany and maybe Belgium? It seems that most people always expect western entries to do badly unless they have something really memorable (well in my opinion neither of those two is nothing special either).

 

[rjb99]

Funny, I actually like the Swedish entry this year and think it is certainly much better than last years effort, does stand out and could do well....so I guess this makes me a misguided fan.........! :twisted: