United Kingdom UNITED KINGDOM 2016 - Joe & Jake - You're Not Alone

[musicfan]

I think the stage presentation and camera work was too beige and didn't reflect the energy the boys brought

It should have shown more excitement to match what Joe and Jake were trying to do but didn't

The fireworks looked like a silly cheap late add-on to me. I wish the show wasn't about effects now, because the BBC are always cheap and uncreative with their staging.

 

[GWTW1939]

The fireworks looked like a silly cheap late add-on to me. I wish the show wasn't about effects now, because the BBC are always cheap and uncreative with their staging.

Well you can blame Sweden's win last year for that

Had it been Italy (as it should have been) or even Russia (overall more balanced) this year wouldn't have been like it was and fanboys wouldn't be exposing their hypocrisy

 

[musicfan]

Well you can blame Sweden's win last year for that

Had it been Italy (as it should have been) or even Russia (overall more balanced) this year wouldn't have been like it was and fanboys wouldn't be exposing their hypocrisy

Russia was all about effects though But to me it just seemed to copy what had been done before, and by bludgeoning people with one thing after another maybe people just forgot that. Italy sounds nice in Italian but the song wasn't that great for me, the Juries rescued them as usual.

 

[lavieenrose]

We should both just give up, withdraw, throw a Turkey and start our own contest. Germanicvision where Scandinavia and Netherlands are banned, We compete against each other and then both tie every year.

All of the regions of the UK and Germany compete, Yorkshire send a sextet of sheep, win in a landslide

 

[cassio]

Still, you Danes should have been mobbing us. At least your jury was feeling beige enough for points.

I would say that was more out of compassion for the UK viewers..... 24th place......well its the UK so we are more or less used to it

 

[Romeo]

what a surprise... the televote fucks the UK over AGAIN.... that has never happened before.... :/

 

[Jacketh]

I don't even know what to suggest for the UK right now.

I never really agree with the idea that "Europe hates us", "we don't get the political votes"...I genuinely believe if we had an entry the standard of Australia, then we'd do good.

Its just finding that entry.

 

[Leydan]

I don't even know what to suggest for the UK right now.

I never really agree with the idea that "Europe hates us", "we don't get the political votes"...I genuinely believe if we had an entry the standard of Australia, then we'd do good.

Its just finding that entry.

It's a complete embarrassment on our part that Australia can do eurovision so much better. The BBC really need to pay attention to how countries are doing so well, our performance tonight looked so weak and underwhelming compared to all our competition. We're obviously not ready for an open selection and a National Final, we need to internally select our entries again and the BBC need to work with songwriters to produce a great song (preferably a good dance song as next year will be a ballad fest). However, that is all just wishful thinking, we all know they wont even try and send something completely shit.

 

[Jacketh]

It's a complete embarrassment on our part that Australia can do eurovision so much better. The BBC really need to pay attention to how countries are doing so well, our performance tonight looked so weak and underwhelming compared to all our competition. We're obviously not ready for an open selection and a National Final, we need to internally select our entries again and the BBC need to work with songwriters to produce a great song (preferably a good dance song as next year will be a ballad fest). However, that is all just wishful thinking, we all know they wont even try and send something completely shit.

Part of me thinks with The Voice leaving BBC that there is a chance there to do a long national selection. But, we all know that'd turn out to be a joke. Sigh. I just think the BBC doesn't care, really.

I think working with an artist who hasn't been around for a while and would likely accept it (Pixie Lott?) and trying to put together a good song is our best opportunity. But, part of me dislikes like that method purely because they're unlikely to really embrace the opportunity and be excited they're at Eurovision - it is just an opportunity for their career. People can discredit Joe and Jake all they like, but they were fantastic representatives for us and clearly loved being in Eurovision. And, look at Jamala tonight... Mans last year... Conchita the year before... there was so much meaning and passion from all three of them, and that does translate into the performance.

Sigh. I just don't know. I kinda wish we had to qualify for the Final. I'd rather us not qualify if we're going to do that poorly every year.

 

[Jacketh]

Rylan Clark-Neal ‏@Rylan 2h2 hours ago
Right @JoeandJakemusic deserved better! They were great. I'm going out next year in the spice jacket! #Eurovision



It would honestly not surprise me in the slightest if we sent Rylan next year.

 

[DanielLuis]

Rylan Clark-Neal ‏@Rylan 2h2 hours ago
Right @JoeandJakemusic deserved better! They were great. I'm going out next year in the spice jacket! #Eurovision



It would honestly not surprise me in the slightest if we sent Rylan next year.

Oh dear god no.

 

[Jacketh]

Just how the hell did Electro Velvet manage to beat Joe and Jake?

Its so disheartening.

 

[Leydan]

Rylan Clark-Neal ‏@Rylan 2h2 hours ago
Right @JoeandJakemusic deserved better! They were great. I'm going out next year in the spice jacket! #Eurovision



It would honestly not surprise me in the slightest if we sent Rylan next year.

That would be a massive step down. :? He works for ITV though, so hopefully BBC wont touch him.

It doesn't matter if our singer is famous or not, it comes down to whether they can sing the song, if the song is good enough and if it is staged well. I almost wish we had been battered till the end in all reviews, instead of the random surge in support we got. :? It would look like the whole concept was a massive failure, but it doesn't really anymore.

 

[RainyWoods]

Here's an idea............ send something half decent. Avoid talent show rejects, avoid cliches. Go for something fresh. Something heartfelt and sincere. Something a bit different, daring. We deserve these results. Every single result we've received recently. As the show started and Graham Norton made some comment about Joe & Jake and the possibility of victory, my father made a comment along the lines of "It's all political anyway and we won't win whatever song we have". Bull flipping poo. We can win. We've sent absolutely NOTHING that has stood out over the past few years. There was of course the Molly wave that the vast majority of us were riding and looking back, my gosh that was embarrassing. The song was alright (nothing more) and so all of a sudden it was the best thing ever. People associate our country with quality music and we provide naff, lightweight, easy listening drivel year after year.

We got what we deserved tonight. I saw the result coming an absolute mile off (only one place off my own personal prediction for us which was 25th. Dammit I got it absolutely spot on the year before). The only thing that upsets me is seeing the glorious Czech Republic entry unfairly behind us. I'm sick and tired of our approach with Eurovision. I want to feel proud of my own entry, just the once. Is that too much to ask?


Ending on a more positive note, go our jury!! Rewarding my two favourites Georgia 12 and Ukraine 10 Got out a fist pump for that hotness A far cry from when we had to endure our jury getting hot over Dina's "What If" a few years ago.

 

[Romeo]

I hope the UK withdraw! the stupid new concept is just degrading

 

[Jacketh]

I see Joe and Jake have retweeted Phillip Scofield telling them "you won't beat politics".

Graham Norton again annoyed me tonight with one or two of his comments.

Petra Mede excitedly telling everyone that there are still 14 songs to go - Graham Norton - "She says that as if it's a good thing!"

We're simply never going to do well when we perceive the competition as a joke; a political joke. And you know what? I think we enjoy it being a joke. We think we're too cool for Eurovision, we don't need that. Lets all laugh at it and pretend they all hate us. Lets all laugh at Graham Norton, or Terry Wogan being as sarcastic as they can. And not take it seriously. That's our (stupid) British mentality. I'm seeing so many "ohmagod politics!" comments on my Twitter and Facebook right now. Only when we start winning again, will we change that mentality. Because things suddenly start looking appealing and credible when you win.

 

[Jacketh]

We treat it as an exam at school that we know we're going to fail, but we turn up anyway because its probably for the best, and just write absolute shit and have a bit of a laugh with the examiners.

But we just do it every year. Every exam. And now its boring.

 

[LucasMichael]

Phillip Schofield gets on my fucking tits, the sooner that abhorrent man retires from telly the better.

 

[bstream]

A national selection is a step in the right direction, at least for the UK's sake. I'd say the reverse is true for Ireland for example, in which going internal is their best bet at this point and time.

They just shouldn't have a national final of 5-7 songs that were all equally middle-of-the-road. They need to diversify their pool of entries. Joe and Jake sang this song the best they could. But the issue was clearly the song. It goes nowhere.

 

[Jacketh]

A national selection is a step in the right direction, at least for the UK's sake. I'd say the reverse is true for Ireland for example, in which going internal is their best bet at this point and time.

They just shouldn't have a national final of 5-7 songs that were all equally middle-of-the-road. They need to diversify their pool of entries. Joe and Jake sang this song the best they could. But the issue was clearly the song. It goes nowhere.

One of the members of The Wanted (Nathan Sykes, idk if you're familiar with them) confirmed tonight it was a song that was written for them, but never used. Obviously they didn't like it.

Which begs the question... why are we using songs that a Boyband who's success peaked in like 2010 rejected?