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RainyWoods
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Aye, whats your take on this:
Sweden: Sarah Dawn Finer up for UK challenge | esctoday.com | your daily eurovision centre
According to this. Sarah Dawn Finer said she would happily represent the UK at the eurovision song contest, or help write a song for the contest. And she also has British heritage so its not that odd at all.
I must say this seems very unlikely that the BBC would choose, however i understand her wanting to do it for us. Its a way to hopefully break into the British market and then global market. I also wouldn't object to her doing it if she was chosen. but if she was to do it for us, wouldn't the Swedes see it as a kick in the teeth for her to kind of "betray" them lol
Sweden: Sarah Dawn Finer up for UK challenge | esctoday.com | your daily eurovision centre
According to this. Sarah Dawn Finer said she would happily represent the UK at the eurovision song contest, or help write a song for the contest. And she also has British heritage so its not that odd at all.
I must say this seems very unlikely that the BBC would choose, however i understand her wanting to do it for us. Its a way to hopefully break into the British market and then global market. I also wouldn't object to her doing it if she was chosen. but if she was to do it for us, wouldn't the Swedes see it as a kick in the teeth for her to kind of "betray" them lol
RainyWoods
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I saw this the other day. I'm not going to get excited about it because it's something thats probably never going to happen unless the BBC decide to hold another national final. They would never pick her internally. They want a "name" and she isn't one.
She would be fantastic though. As a matter of fact, i've thought for years that Sarah could win the whole contest with the right song. I think her voice is just THAT good. Oh well, we can but dream.
LalehForWD
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No, she'll probably secure a 12p to the UK from Sweden regardless (almost
) of song. Representing the UK is probably also her only chance to perform in ESC in the foreseeable future. I can't see her winning Melodifestivalen with any song now, it would just feel awkward somehow to see her competing after all the hosting and Lyndas. She should have won Melodifestivalen 2007 with the amazing I remember love instead of The Krap.No, she'll probably secure a 12p to the UK from Sweden regardless (almost
I guess we will have to wait and see, but i like ive said. I wouldn't object to her to doing it for us. However other brits may question it.
LalehForWD
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Of course they will, no one will know her except for ESC fans. It would perhaps be putting her chin out for the obvious bashing and I think she'll be much better off without that. No, I hope she will concentrate on her singing and perhaps be a bit (read very much) bolder in her choice of music material. Perhaps spending some time in London?
NeonProject
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I personally like her and her voice... but let's be a bit less fanboyish here.
The BBC would just give her an uninteresting ballad and it would only be as good as the last few years we've had.
I also think picking her would be a bit disrespectful to the millions of amazing acts (signed, upcoming and unsigned) we have over here in the UK. Yes, they haven't been doing too well, but choosing Sarah would be a huge stake in the heart to acts like Hurts who genuinely want to do it for their country.
A lot of fans like the idea of her representing us before even hearing the song; they're rooting for the name... isn't that what a lot of fans criticise in the BBC's approach? This support behind her just stinks of contradiction and fan-wank to me. It's things like this that make fandoms annoying and ridiculously predictable.
It's interesting she said she would, but I think we would be better off leaving it at that instead of getting all over-dramatic about it. (Not here, but amongst the fans.)
(Sorry for the rant.)
The BBC would just give her an uninteresting ballad and it would only be as good as the last few years we've had.
I also think picking her would be a bit disrespectful to the millions of amazing acts (signed, upcoming and unsigned) we have over here in the UK. Yes, they haven't been doing too well, but choosing Sarah would be a huge stake in the heart to acts like Hurts who genuinely want to do it for their country.
A lot of fans like the idea of her representing us before even hearing the song; they're rooting for the name... isn't that what a lot of fans criticise in the BBC's approach? This support behind her just stinks of contradiction and fan-wank to me. It's things like this that make fandoms annoying and ridiculously predictable.
It's interesting she said she would, but I think we would be better off leaving it at that instead of getting all over-dramatic about it. (Not here, but amongst the fans.)
(Sorry for the rant.)
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NeonProject
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I don't even know what you are talking about.
RainyWoods
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I sort of agree but at least Sarah has british heritage which is more that can be said for artists we have sent in the past. In this case I don't think we are rooting for the name. We are rooting for her because she's good and would most likely give us a very good result with the right song. It's pointless rooting however as she will never happen. To be honest i'd rather Sweden do the decent thing and just send her (if her song is good enough) next time she decides to enter Melodifestivalen.
It's true, we have many great artists here *ahem* outside of the mainstream but the BBC are hopeless. They will never think outside of the box. I personally would love us to be represented with a piece of folk music or a beautiful chamber pop song (two things our country does very well). This will never happen though. The BBC confuse me no end. On the one hand they are very good with some of their music programmes such as Jools Holland.. Then you see them being impossibly clueless in regards to Eurovision. It's frustrating.
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I honestly think they are impossibly clueless to Eurovision because they don't want to win it, and they want it to continue to be portrayed as the comedy show that airs once a year and that everybody tunes in to see. I honestly can't understand BBC's stupidity otherwise.
RainyWoods
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It's too obvious that's how they are thinking. The thing is, we don't even have to win it. We could enter something really beautiful and honest.. I just wish my country could have a "Suus"/"Birds" moment.
NeonProject
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It's so frustrating and embarrassing being a fan from the UK. I know other countries aren't that great to be an esc fan either, but those other countries are small countries, not massive nations with a massive music industry. There is literally no excuse for the treatment we get. There are dozens of countries who don't want to win, just like us, but they still manage to send decent stuff that the country can be proud of... in fact I'd bet over half the nations that compete don't really want to win.
I really wish that broadcasters could bid to represent countries, because I think the EBU would definitely snub the BBC given the first chance and we'd end up with ITV. Which some people moan they'd be too commercial, but at least there would be an effort and I'd see ITV actually wanting to win.
BBC is acting like a spoilt child with this, they have something everyone else wants, but because it's got old with them they treat it like **** and won't let other people have it.
I really wish that broadcasters could bid to represent countries, because I think the EBU would definitely snub the BBC given the first chance and we'd end up with ITV. Which some people moan they'd be too commercial, but at least there would be an effort and I'd see ITV actually wanting to win.
BBC is acting like a spoilt child with this, they have something everyone else wants, but because it's got old with them they treat it like **** and won't let other people have it.
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If you see the rest of their Light Entertainment output bar Strictly Come Dancing I think impossibly clueless is very likely.
If ITV did it i would expect them to try like you've said because they would want to prove themselves in a way that they can do eurovision as well, and better than BBC. However the BBC will never give it, because they know when they give it up, ITV will pick it up and they would of lost something that brings in millions of viewers to a competing channel.
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So true... has all the best artists in the world... They all go to sing at BBC, especially Radio 1. So there's no need to go with Josh Dubovie or who knows who...
BBC could pick one... But well... In France there is now more and more good artists who wants to enter... And we have a very weak music industry !
Plus, France Télévisions doesn't work with artists...
So, come on, we want quality and modern things next year !
has all the best artists in the world... They all go to sing at BBC, especially Radio 1. So there's no need to go with Josh Dubovie or who knows who... BBC could pick one... But well... In France there is now more and more good artists who wants to enter... And we have a very weak music industry !
Plus, France Télévisions doesn't work with artists... So, come on
, we want quality and modern things next year ! NeonProject
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Haha, a Eurovision revolution against the BBC could do the trick.
GWTW1939
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The fact is the BBC are indeed the #1 reason for the UK's ESC problems. They reject quality artists like Katie and The Hurts for past their prime oldies like Engelbert and Bonnie. Why the hell are Maria Lawson and Same Difference sending songs to represent Switzerland and why is Jon Lilygreen is representing Cyprus? Because they should be trying to represent the UK but their not because they know the BBC won't even give them a chance. I also think it wouldn't hurt if the UK public were a little less prejudice and more open to possible representatives. Every year there are a few who are suggested in the press and are met with disgust by everyone even though beggars shouldn't be choosers.
It's depressing because they have had golden opportunities handed to them on a silver patter but they do nothing with them. They either throw it together at the last minute or choose a bottom of the barrel pick as their first when it should be their last. Okay we get it they don't want to win, but they don't realize its not impossible to have great acts who get great results yet still not win. UK results won't improve until the BBC improve their attitude and that's clearly not going to happen anytime soon.
Is Melanie C still open to the idea if they do a internal selection? She seems to have changed her attitude and opinion on it and might do it if asked. Of course she still a has-been and most Brits apparently don't want to be represented by an ex-Spice Girl but its still a more realistic goal then some people online have year after year. A Mel C/Emma Bunton Duet would be a dream!
It's depressing because they have had golden opportunities handed to them on a silver patter but they do nothing with them. They either throw it together at the last minute or choose a bottom of the barrel pick as their first when it should be their last. Okay we get it they don't want to win, but they don't realize its not impossible to have great acts who get great results yet still not win. UK results won't improve until the BBC improve their attitude and that's clearly not going to happen anytime soon.
Is Melanie C still open to the idea if they do a internal selection? She seems to have changed her attitude and opinion on it and might do it if asked. Of course she still a has-been and most Brits apparently don't want to be represented by an ex-Spice Girl but its still a more realistic goal then some people online have year after year. A Mel C/Emma Bunton Duet would be a dream!
Haha, a Eurovision revolution against the BBC could do the trick.
Imagine the headlines: ITV stages a ESC coup against the BBC.
The people who do eurovsion at the bbc are obviously Musically retarded, or are stuck in an 80's time warp. Hopefully after 2 failed attempts they will book their ideas up. Plus this year is different because in previous years newspaper and tabloids would blame political voting in europe but this year they were attacking the bbc for poor choices.
Like you've said theres no excuse. The bbc may not want to fin anymore but there is no reason why we cant send great entries every year that do well.