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Scooby

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That's right!!

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I hope you've learned the lesson now!!

Odesa is now Romanian xwave
 

AlekS

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You want to say that pro Russians won Orange Revolution 2004?
It was 50/50. Buying few politicians gave them majority in the parliament.

We don't have problems with our supplier, transit is problem (not only for us, for half of the Europe) :D
Your government is the problem, they didn't care about risks. We found another suppliers, you didn't.
And all of this is related to Jamala in which way? :D

And BTW I am still sad for Helpless, what an extraordinary song
They will come back. I hope with even a better song. There will be a competition from Zlata if she comes back too.
 

wyq614

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If this is not stopped, it can be terrible in the future when all the countries internationalize its problem via Eurovision Song Contest (not Europoliticalvision or Eurohistoricalvision). Imagine that on the stage where European countries are supposed to be together, Armenians sing Don't Deny and Azeris sing "The dark dark nights of Khodjali", French singer perform "Alsace Lorraine My Home" and Serbia "Destroyers in the Sky", how would this contest be?

In this case, I agree that Jamala has the right to compose a song that reflects the story of her ancestors. But, if you want to make it "raw", either you don't try to join Eurovision or you can express yourself in a much prudent way (some art of hinting). For example, 1944 is a concrete and definite year, so when people see the title and know the background of the singer they know at once what she will be singing about. Is it really really hard for Jamala to tell the same story but with different type of lyrics, for example a title of "The Train Bound Eastward" will not be that controversial, and it is not 100% necessary to put the words like "weapon" in the lyrics.
 

SpZ

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Is it really really hard for Jamala to tell the same story but with different type of lyrics, for example a title of "The Train Bound Eastward" will not be that controversial, and it is not 100% necessary to put the words like "weapon" in the lyrics.

Lol. Using the phrase the train bound eastwards is a lot more direct way of speaking about the issue than naming the year 1944.
 

AlekS

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on the stage where European countries are supposed to be together....
I'm saying this to haters in this thread, on YT, in the Russian media etc.

But, if you want to make it "raw"
What's "raw" in condemning murders? We shouldn't do this because stalinists won't like it? Wtf :lol:

For example, 1944 is a concrete and definite year
The year when these events in her family happened :geek: Nobody owns a copyright for this year.
Yesterday she said she will change the title if the EBU asks her & it won't be a problem to her.
 

tuorem

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Anyway, the EBU already said all the songs of the Ukrainian final were complying with the rules. She'll change the title and that's it.
 

Fierro

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Jamala says if she is asked to change song name it will be done but there is no plans to do it despite Danylko advised her to make title less compromising.
 

John1

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Anyway, the EBU already said all the songs of the Ukrainian final were complying with the rules. She'll change the title and that's it.

She told us in the Ukrainian NF that she would change the background and all the performance too.
 
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